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Hello Coaches! A challenge update has been posted (attached here).
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Good afternoon teams!
Thank you so much Skip for posting the latest update. There is not a change for the Virginia DC region, essentially FIRST has adopted how we interpret immediately when it comes to combined mission models.
First, a big THANK YOU to everyone who tested Masterpiece Hero 3.0 for Full S.T.E.A.M. Ahead last month. Because of your input, they were able to win the Innovation Award at the Ashburn Tournament and move on to states in December.
But the iteration continues!
They modeled their game off of the organization Art Recovery International and when they came back from regionals, decided to email them with the good news. The CEO wrote them back with congratulations and a great idea on how to reboot the game to turn it into a PSA for the world's real missing art.
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Our FLL team has aged out after five wonderful years, and we have a great hand-built wooden table that I'm offering for free. The table would need to be picked up in NW DC (Tenleytown), potentially this coming weekend. You'll need a large vehicle, or padding/rope to put on the car roof and I'm happy to lend a hand.
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Hello,
Can someone please clarify this for our team?
Do you receive points for the pedestal if it is in contact with the expert or any audience members?
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Happy holiday season to you all,
We have a brand new ( Unused) LEGO Education Spike Prime Construction System ( Age 10+ ) with expansion set. Please let me know if anyone is interested in buying it discounted price.
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Hi,
Our team got selected to state championship and wanted to see if any one in the Ashburn VA area was willing to loan us the masterpiece mat/mission models for a few weeks.
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Thanks to everyone who made the Southwest Regional happen Saturday at the Higher Education Center in Abingdon. Lots of kids, energy, learning, and fun!
Kudos to the volunteers and the facility for a great day.
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Yes, this event was absolutely amazing! So much energy. Volunteers were so kind and helping out throughout the day. 🙏🏻 Thank you for all that you do for community!!
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Thank you to Denyse Carroll and all the volunteers who made the qualifier at Manassas so wonderful this weekend. It was an outstanding event and ran so smoothly even with 36 teams competing. Everyone was so positive and supportive of the kids. Our team had a great time and made some memories that will last a lifetime. Thank you!
Hope you all are well and enjoying different tournaments. I wanted to check if anyone wants to give away or lend their mat and missions for a few weeks.
Thank you
Pankaj
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This is my first time having a team move onto states since I took over coaching at my school; what's the process for registration and getting all the details? Thank you!
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The state partner will send out an email with details tomorrow.
We look forward to seeing you there!
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Teams that are advancing to the VA-DC FLL Championship Tournament from a tournament this weekend will receive an email from Kaitlin tomorrow (she's driving equipment back from tournaments tonight) that will have details on how to register, what the day will look like, etc.
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Hello Volunteers! What a great time we had at the Norfolk tournament on Saturday. We had a lot of fun! It was so nice talking with coaches, kids and families. And without a doubt, the Norfolk Volunteers are the best! Karen, Steve and Amanda, and everyone supporting what you are doing, thanks! The experiences these kids are getting in PRICELESS, and we could not do it without you.
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Yes I completely agree! Our team had the best time at the Norfolk tournament thanks to the amazing leadership, volunteers and other teams! We had the best refs, judges and FRC students encouraging our teams. From the teams working to help each other at the practice tables to high five tunnel and Lego cheers at the end, this is what FLL is truly about! With highest appreciation, Amy Walker Sent from my iPhone
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Friends, I hope your FLL season has been awesome, and I'm looking forward to seeing many of you at the state tournament in a few weeks! Whether your season is over or just getting started, we'd love to add you to our directory. The kids are hoping to make it easier for teams to find other teams and for teams to find experts! Here's a message from the FROGS, who selected "FLL" as their
Just a quick shout-out to FROGS Robotics for this awesome resource! One of our teams is reaching out to several of the experts listed on the directory this week to get their input on their latest iteration of their video game. And will also be emailing the teams listed to introduce themselves and ask for beta testers for their latest version of their innovation project, Masterpiece Hero. Sometimes running a team feels like you're in an FLL silo but this directory widens our world. Thank you! (And if you haven't added yourself or your team yet, this is a nudge
Friends, we'd love to have more teams and experts listed. Experts could be coaches or parents or volunteers -- it's hard to know what a team will need until they need it, so we'd like to list anyone willing to talk to an FLL team. Does your team need a midwife? We have one in the directory!
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Can an attachment stand higher than 12 inches once inspection is done and the match is underway or do all attachments need to be under 12 inches at all times?
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After inspection, the height of the robot does not matter.
Michael Brown
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sorry to re-open this thread again.. I like to get some more clarification. If the attchment is under 12 during inspection, but at the time of mission launch, it is attached to the robot. It fits within the launch area, but the robot + attachment is taller than the imaginary 12 inch line - is that still valid ?
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After inspection, the height of the robot does not matter.
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 5:44 PM Surya Kodukula <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: sorry to re-open this thread again.. I like to get some more clarification. If the attchment is under 12 during inspection, but at the time of mission launch, it is attached to the robot. It fits within the launch area, but the robot + attachment is taller than the imaginary 12 inch line
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Teams.
Over the last two weekends and many emails I have seen from coaches has caused me to reach out to you about combining mission models.
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Here are the submissions for the Norfolk tournament scavenger hunt as of 4:45 pm on November 16. Last chance to submit is 10 pm on 11/16.
To everyone who made the Ashburn Tournament possible this past Sunday...THANK YOU SO DARN MUCH! We brought three rookie teams this year (all teens) and they all left on such a high. Hands-down our favorite part of the day was seeing all the kids do a conga line before the awards ceremony. What joy!
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Yes! The event was super fun. I second that.
Thanks to Kaitlin Ilnitzki for this level of dedication (she is the best!), Sarath Kolla ( serving the community for a decade in robotics) and Rosa Lee Carter's amazing PTO under the leadership of Jimmy Vo. This was hands down such an impactful event. Kids can't stop talking about it.
Hi, Our team needs a FLL table for next round. The table we have, which I assembled with VEX kit, does not work very well. We are in Glen Allen. Thank you in advance!
Regards, Thang Nguyen
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On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 1:33 PM Thang Nguyen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi, Our team needs a FLL table for next round. The table we have, which I assembled with VEX kit, does not work very well. We are in Glen Allen. Thank you in advance!
One of our teams has a long equipment piece for one mission testing the edges of the launch area. Is the black line outlining the launch area considered part of the launch area or does the robot have to be inside the white area of the launch area (can they be on the line but not beyond the line). That 1/2 of a centimeter for the black line space on the curve of the launch area and back wall makes a difference for their mission.
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The border of an area is counted as part of the area in FLL, so you should be good.
I recommend letting your referee know about it before the match starts, though.
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The November 18 NORFOLK tournament is having a scavenger hunt and core values game. We hope this will be a FUN way to engage other teams to visit with each other.
Norfolk tournament teams are asked to complete the form below by Thursday, November 16 so we can create the scavenger hunt. Printouts of the scavenger hunt and separate core values game will be available at registration. Pencils will also be provided.
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Our team discovered the movie set could be pushed when they were sending the robot from the right launch area to the left launch area and accidentally ran into it one time.
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Can a team come in and each team member introduce themselves during the two minute "Welcome."
We don't want the judges to think that introduction is part of the Project Presentation. The time used to start when the team entered the room.
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john, As long as the introductions are very short, like each just saying their name, you will be fine. In some of the judging rooms the judges may take some time to introduce themselves. A quick "Would you like us to introduce ourselves?" or "Do we have time to introduce ourselves?" from the team will make it very clear. If the judges think time is pressing, they may say something like "As long as
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Hi John...
The first two minutes are for the team. They can use that to set-up, introduce themselves, or talk about anything that they think will highlight their work for the season - outside of the project or robot design. They should strategize on how best to use that time.
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We value and appreciate your feedback. I am asking for our team AND others that need to fully understand and be comfortable with the format of the combined judging. It helps take the "mystery" out of the judging session format for both rookie and veteran teams.
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Due to confidential reasons, we have one team member who wants to approach the table but is not responsible for a mission run/did direct programming. We'd like to have this person at least approach the table to turn off the 'bot at the 2.5 minute cutoff. We thought we have read that only two people are allowed at each launch zone. Can we, during the run, have one technician step away from the table
Hello all, For Mission 4 - the kids have placed the pedestal + art piece + 7 audience members + expert, together in a small container and the robot pushes the container to the museum target destination. Is this acceptable? My concern is that the rule book page 9 says that the pedestal may not touch any team equipment other than the art piece. so in this case, is the box considered as a team equipment?
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Hi all, Is a robot attachment allowed to hang over the edge of the table when being launched from the home area? Technically it is directly above the edge of the table and doesn't stick out past it but my team is worried about it.
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Very helpful. Thank you!
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Hello Scott!
Page 19 (rule 4 for During the Match): When launching: (second bullet): "The robot and anything it is about to move must fit COMPLETELY inside the launch area and be at rest."
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Can I verify something?
We are planning for our program to run with multiple executables and we know we are currently longer than 2.5 minutes. Our plans is to, ala the great British Baking Show, have the robot going until the judges say time and then sweep it off the map.
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Page 21 of the robot game rulebook states:
"After 2.5 minutes, the match ends. Technicians must stop their robot and touch nothing else. This is when scoring begins."
So, rather than sweeping it off the map, just have them push the stop button, "and touch nothing else". :)
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Scott is correct. There is no extra points for a robot stopping somewhere. Either the referee or the team will just need to turn off the robot at the end of the match.
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How do we find out what time everything starts????
Cathlene Shearon Sent from my iPhone
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One of R-MA's teams this year, Full S.T.E.A.M. Ahead, has created an educational video game for their innovation project they've entitled Masterpiece Hero. In it, the player is tasked with rescuing nine of the world's most famous paintings from the lair of the infamous art thief, Timmy the Terrible. To progress through the game, the player has to learn about each masterwork then take a short quiz at the end to prove their knowledge.
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Dear all,
We would like to share our team's Innovation Project - and kindly request 1 minute to fill in the below survey using below link.
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Done! What a cool idea. Good luck at the tournament FHD!!
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Hello,
Where can I find the Robot runs scores for different teams in last week’s FLL events? Atleast scores for teams which progressed to next rounds?
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We have a full team— 10 members— and I was wondering if we could use two robots so that more kids could have a chance to program missions.
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Page 17 of the rulebook states that you are only allowed to have one controller in any one match.
You may make several copies of your robot for practice, of course, but you can only have one at the competition tables. Martin Scherr
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But in the event you will have three runs and can use different robots for each.
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Thank you everyone!
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Hello Judges,
For Mission - m02- Theater scene change, what is the starting color position of the color ball / pointer. ? Page no.8 shows blue in the picture. Kindly confirm.
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It starts on blue.
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Reading the rules 'During the Match, Inside home section' Point 3 says : Technicians may not 'Hand aything from one home area to the other' -
Can a team start in left launch area, complete a mission x,y,z and end up in the right launch area. If their next mission wants to start in the left launch area, can they move the robot from the right launch area to the left and then continue the mission?
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No, they may not.
Martin Scherr
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Marty is 100% right.
This rule is found on page 19 rule 3.
Michael Brown Referee advisor VA DC FLL
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As part of Mission 04, can the Pedestal, and the expert be attached to a flag lego base plate and moved into its target position ? I have seen some other mission videos uploaded to youtube, that attached audience onto another lego brick/plate and deliver, so was wondering what rules apply here.
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In the same question, can I use a brick to attach the art piece to the pedestal so it does not fall out of the pedestal while moving?
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You are allowed to attach mission models (eg the pedestal) to team equipment (eg a baseplate) as long as they can be separated immediately (in a single motion).
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Thank you I understand now clearly about the pedestal and masterpiece. How about experts and audience delivery? can they be in a cage/frame box or a flat plate and delivered and leave the cage/flat plate in the target area and still get points?
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The same rule applies to the experts and the audience delivery.
Page 20 rule 4. If a mission module is combined with anything, the combination must be loose and simple enough that if ass, a technician could immediately (one motion) free the mission model in perfect original condition.
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Can the expert model be placed loosely in a container and not be touching the mat?
Thanks!
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Yes.
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Hi everyone,
Our team (crestechnik) is in need for 7 ultrasonic sensor for older ev3 kit for our innovation project. We are in fairfax area. Does some one have older sensors to spare? We will happy to pick them up. We will return them after the competition.
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Thanks Amit
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Hi Everyone, I have brand new (unused & unopened) Portable Robotics Table Topper, please let me know if anyone want.
Thanks, Kamal
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Teams,
Please ignore the red color of the text in this email. It doesn't mean anything. Was part of our editing process that I could not see to remove.
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In this case it would be the edge of the mat. Yes, it includes the black line.
When you get to the tournament it is likely this black line is going to be covered by a quarter inch gaffer's tape. You're not exactly going to see it and teams get benefit of the doubt. If the attachment is obviously outside the launch area, the referee will ask the team to move it in.
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Ok for art piece, expert, and audience delivery.
Pedestal bonus would not count.
Michael Brown Referee Advisor VA DC FLL
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