Hmm.  I have to admit that one of the strategies my team is considering
involves driving over the walls.  I didn't see anything in the rules that
preclude this but I wonder if they did this and the wall got damaged could
that be ruled "deliberate" damage?  or would it only be deliberate if they
clearly intended to damage them (e.g. "bulldozing" or otherwise knocking
them out of the way)?

Is this something that should be submitted to the Q&A blog?

- glenn



-----Original Message-----
From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems

I wouldn't worry about accidental damage. The general rule is that it's
gotta look deliberate and/or play into the team's strategy (I guess that
would imply deliberate). I.e., if your robot tries to make points by going
over the guide walls, knocking them down in the process, that would probably
NOT be acceptable. If they're known to be fragile and they fall over when
bumped, it's as likely to hurt as help, and is not (or at least should not
be) penalizable (hmm, apparently that's not a word, but you know what I
mean!).

And yes, sometimes they will be glued -- but you can't count on that,
either.
-- 
Phil Smith III
Virginia State Judge Advisor, 2007, 2008, 2009
Judge Advisor, Northern Virginia Regional tournaments, 2007, 2008
Division 1 Judge Advisor, Virginia State tournament, 2006

Coach, The Capital Girls, Oak Hill (retired)
Team 1900 (2002)
Team 2497 (2003)
Team 2355 (2004)
Team 1945 (2005)
-----Original Message-----
From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eric Palmer
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems

I'll have to go back and read the rule again about if we damage the guide
walls unintentionally. They are just a fragile design.  But if the walls are
not solid it may change the behavior of the robots and the time it takes for
the judges to piece them together may be a factor.

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