for clarification: the robot, not the kids, would be doing the "combining". also, as soon as I sent my post I remembered where I saw the discussion before: https://forums.usfirst.org/forum/general-discussions/first-programs/first-lego-league/the-challenge/rules-missions/15669-does-a-lego-carabiner-violate-r11 I would still like an official answer if possible. Thanks again, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.