Yes, 150 seconds.  I guess I was in a hurry to get to lunch...

Steve

On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Phil Smith III <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Those are metric seconds :-)
>
> No, you're right, it's 2.5 minutes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jason Wu
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:22 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Cardiovascular Exercise Mission - 36 trips?
>
> Sorry if this is a stupid question, I am a rookie coach, I thought the FLL match is 2.5 minutes (150 seconds). But Mr. Stave Scherr said this is a 250-second match (below), is this a typo? Or I misread?
>
> Thanks
> Jason
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:56 PM, VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Also see Robot Game Update 3 at
>> http://firstlegoleague.org/challenge/robotgameupdates.  [The Updates
>> are really important--more important than any of the other Robot Game
>> documents.]
>>
>> "Every year there's one mission that's supposed to make the challenge
>> impossible to finish"
>>
>> In fact, it is not believable that any robot will score 118 points out
>> of the Cardiovascular mission.  Even if the robot did no other
>> missions, in a 250-second match the robot would have to average 7
>> seconds for each trip.  And the trips get progressively less
>> worthwhile (with one notable exception.)
>>
>> I hope that your teams won't think that just because they cannot
>> achieve all the mission points, that the mission isn't worthwhile.  It
>> is designed for teams of all skill levels to be able to continuously
>> improve.  Does your team have 20 seconds left over in the match, where
>> the robot will just be sitting around?  Then send it to the cardio
>> machine and earn 5 more points! (Or 3) (or maybe 13, but I doubt that
>> I'll see more than one of those...)
>>
>> Newer teams that cannot score on other missions will probably be able
>> to do this one several times.
>> Experienced teams that want to maximize their scores will look for
>> ways to do it faster and squeeze one more click into their match.
>> All teams will have to weigh the risk of trying for one more cardio
>> click versus allowing enough time to earn points on the Transitions
>> mission.
>>
>> With the introduction of the "unending" or "infinite" missions, the
>> Robot Game is more open ended, and introduces more strategy and
>> decisions for teams to make, as well as allowing all teams the
>> opportunity to keep scoring points during the match.
>>
>> Steve Scherr
>> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Emler, Paul <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Watch the video. This is the mission created this year to separate the top
>>> teams. It is a time killer. It was designed that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ram Boreda
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:59 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Cardiovascular Exercise Mission - 36 trips?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>            To score the full 118 points on Cardiovascular exercise
>>> missions, does the Robot need to make 36 trips to the Base? Since the Robot
>>> can only turn the pin wheel 90 degrees at a time and it needs to go back to
>>> base before it touches the pin wheel again, we would need to click the wheel
>>> 36 times. Our team is thinking about 6-8 runs in total and is concerned that
>>> they will be able to get only a small number of points from the Cardio
>>> machine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>            Are we mis-understanding or mis-interpreting something here?
>>> Your insights will be highly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ram Boreda
>>
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