It's a judgement call by the refs as to whether it's intentional or not. If the robot goes to lift it, the sample wedges in the hole, and the robot pulls the ring apart, that's (probably) not going to be ruled intentional. If, OTOH, you bring the ring back to base, open it, and then deliver it open for some reason, that's clearly intentional damage.

Everything else is somewhere on the spectrum...
-- 
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-----Original Message-----
From: First Lego League Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lloyd O'Hara
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Red Ice Core Ring Question

just a guess but I think that would come under the heading of intentional 
field damage.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Paus" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Red Ice Core Ring Question

> Is there a penalty for breaking the red ring that surrounds the ice
> core sample when retrieving the ice core sample?  I have not found
> anything that says one way or the other.

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