I havenıt been able to follow every bit of this conversation, but I hope
Iım not repeating earlier posts. Some feminist philosophers have started
discussing age/aging. Margaret Walker edited a collection on aging called
Mother Time (Rowman and Littlefield), and my collection Being Yourself
(Rowman and Littlefield) includes a chapter called ³Feminine Mortality
Imagery: Feminist Riposts.² I hope there will be lots more work maybe a
future Hypatia special issue on women and aging. Best, Diana
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Diana Tietjens Meyers
Professor Emerita of Philosophy
University of Connecticut, Storrs
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On 1/23/14, 2:07 PM, "Alison Reiheld" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Folks:
>
>I would be interested in seeing more philosophical work on age and
>ageing, along
>the lines of what Judy is considering.
>
>One thing that got me thinking about this lately, along with
>heteronormativity
>and gender/sex dichotomy and pronatalism and granting full moral status
>to the
>fetus and biological parenting, is the following "stages of life" my
>kindergartener recently informed me about which they had learned during a
>Health unit: first you grow in your mommy's belly, then you are born,
>then you
>are a baby, then a boy or a girl, then a teenager, then an adult, then a
>mommy
>or a daddy, then an elder, and then you die.
>
>There is a lot to work with there.
>
>Best,
> Alison
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> Alison Reiheld
> Assistant Professor, Department of Philosophy
> College of Arts and Sciences
> SIU-Edwardsville
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>
>Quoting Judy Andre <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> A first, basic, point: Everyone has "age," just as everyone has race,
>> culture, and gender. Age is a relational term, but a largely
>>untheorized one.
>> That's what I'm after.
>>
>> Questions of justice arises immediately: Are some parts of the life span
>> privileged at the expense of others? See Toni Calasanti et al on that
>> question.
>>
>> But I'm after something else: the last stage of life in our own culture
>>lacks
>> meaning. There are no ideals, obligations, responsibilities; few
>>rights; no
>> initiation ceremonies. Could/should that be different? If so, in what
>> relationship to other stages of life? Sentient biological beings are
>>aware of
>> their place on a spectrum, and that awareness is part of their
>> self-understanding.
>>
>> I should have mentioned that Peg Simons has also worked on these
>>questions,
>> drawing from Beauvoir's La Vieillesse.
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ann Ferguson [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:49 PM
>> To: Judy Andre
>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Older philosophers
>>
>> Hi, like Judy I just added myself to the Women of Philosophy website
>>after
>> feeling momentarily vanished when I didnt see my name there. I
>>understand
>> why retired and non-academically affiliated women philosophers were not
>> originally included--we are often not as present on the web in official
>> websites run by the academy, and tend not to have our own personal
>>websites
>> because of the hassle of learning how to set one up as an older person
>>not
>> familiar with the technology or even having some self-doubts about what
>>her
>> "career" means and should be pursued as a thinker. For example, I have
>>given
>> up trying to post my bibliography of books and articles on the Phil
>>Papers
>> website because it is too frustrating to figure out! A problem of how
>>some
>> people age (including me) I guess.
>>
>> Regarding ageing as a philosophical topic I agree that we could use
>>more
>> feminist philosophical analysis of it as an issue. I am not aware of
>>much
>> that has been done since Marilyn Pearsall's excellent work in the
>>1980s. But
>> it is an issue I personally shy away from because it is not part of my
>> central understanding of myself and I dont want to be pigeon-holed as an
>> "old" feminist philosopher, which tends to imply that I have insights
>>about
>> the past of feminist theory and philosophy but not much to offer about
>> current issues and developments in feminist theory. After all there
>>have
>> been several "turns" in feminist theory and philosophy since I wrote
>>most of
>> my original feminist theory, and for awhile it felt like postmodern and
>> poststructuralist feminist theory had dissed my type of materialist
>>feminist
>> theory as old-fashioned (cf. Nicholson, ed Feminism/Postmodernism,
>>1990 or
>> so). I see the "old-fashioned" label as an ad-hominem, and
>>wrong-headed,
>> since in my view theory production does not move in a linear direction
>>but
>> more in a spiral type fashion.
>>
>> Maybe others dont feel that way, but I would be interested to hear the
>> personal resonances of both older feminist philosophers to this identity
>> question and also of youngers to how they think of older thinkers.
>>
>> Ann Ferguson
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Judy Andre
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Thanks to all who created the Women in Philosophy list; I've just added
>> myself, and it was as easy as promised. I chose to call myself
>>"emerita," but
>> it's probably true that "independent scholar" gets more respect.
>>
>> Which leads to my real point. As some of the anguished responses from
>>older
>> women philosophers indicated, there is important political work to be
>>done
>> about inclusiveness and age. There is also a great deal of interesting
>> *philosophical* work to be done (of course the personal, political, and
>> philosophical intersect), and some of us have started to do it. Hats
>>off to
>> Kate Lindeman, who has been a pioneer in the area.
>>
>> I would be glad to share what I am doing, and I think Kate would be as
>>well.
>> Let's get together and help clear this new land.
>>
>> From: Feminist ethics and social theory
>> [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on behalf
>>of Joan
>> Callahan [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 6:47 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Women in Philosophy Directory Launched!
>>
>> Dear Sally,
>>
>> In response to the comments on Emerita by Eva et al. -- I must say that
>>when
>> I checked the list, I felt I had become a vapor.
>>
>> As you might realize, I well know what kind of work goes into an effort
>>like
>> this, Sally, and I mean no criticism. This is an enormous
>>contribution. I
>> really know of no one else who has done as much as you have done, not
>>only as
>> a remarkable, theoretically groundbreaking feminist scholar, but at
>>least as
>> importantly as a smart, loving, and effective colleague in fostering
>> professionally and personally the community of feminist philosophers.
>>We are
>> all in your debt and will forever remain so.
>>
>> So my comments are exclusively about this latest contribution, which I
>>DO
>> understand is a work in progress. Please take them as just trying to
>>make it
>> the best it might be.
>>
>> I am SURE you know that there are still many of us, formally retired
>>now, who
>> do try to continue to "pitch in," which is putting it MUCH too mildly
>>for so
>> many who continue to "produce" major philosophical work (think of
>>Lorraine
>> Code, for example) at an astounding level, as well as work out of the
>> professional public eye continuing supporting students, as well as other
>> matters too numerous to mention.
>>
>> Please, then, could whoever is putting this together try to get us old
>>folks
>> included and KEEP getting us included without having to personally add
>> ourselves in? More of us continue to retire. Please don't forget us.
>>
>> I also VERY STRONGLY suggest that having a formal emeritus status
>>should be
>> let go immediately.
>>
>> There are some very, very fine independent scholars who have chosen that
>> route for a variety of reasons, and have made SUBSTANTIAL contributions
>>to
>> philosophy, including feminist philosophy (and often continue to do so)
>>--
>> Helen Bequaert Holmes comes quickly to mind as one major example.
>>Given her
>> remarkable early work on feminsit bioethics, it is untinkable to me
>>that she
>> would not be most enthusically included in an inaugural version of
>>"Women of
>> Philosophy."
>>
>> Forgive me, please. But, then of course, I know you will.
>>
>> All best,
>> Joan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Eva Kittay
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> It was not because there were emeritus that they were not on. The list
>>was I
>> guess just a way to get this going. I was left out as were all my
>>colleagues
>> at SBU. I have just urged everyone to sign themselves in. It is a
>>very good
>> thing to have. So I join my thanks to those of others. But it would
>>help if
>> people were alerted that the list was still a work in progress with
>>respect
>> to its comprehensiveness. It's clear however that you are welcome to
>>add
>> yourself or others.
>> Best, Eva
>>
>> Eva Feder Kittay
>> Distinguished Professor of Philosophy
>> Stony Brook University
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> 212-333-4670<tel:212-333-4670>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:58 PM, "Meyers, Diana"
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> My sample is limited, but almost all the emerita philosophers I know are
>> women currently working in philosophy. Those who donıt feel they
>>belong on
>> the list because theyıve lost interest in teaching and/or writing can
>>opt
>> out, I imagine. Thanks so much, Sally and volunteers, for compiling
>>this
>> list. Best, Diana
>> **************************************
>> Diana Tietjens Meyers
>> Professor Emerita of Philosophy
>> University of Connecticut, Storrs
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> http://dianatietjensmeyers.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>> From: Linda Lopez McAlister
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Reply-To: Society for Women in Philosophy Information and Discussion
>>List
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 at 12:59 PM
>> To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: Women in Philosophy Directory Launched!
>>
>> It's a bit confusing, Sally, since the page itself says "women currently
>> working in philosophy".
>>
>> Linda Lopez McAlister
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Sally Haslanger" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:34:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: Women in Philosophy Directory Launched!
>>
>> Hi Tangren:
>> There are many emerita on the list already so please add yourself! An
>> emerita faculty member is a faculty member!
>> Best, Sally
>>
>>
>**************************************************************************
>*****************
>> Please note: I am on sabbatical this term. If I have not been prompt in
>> responding to your email, it is because I'm really trying to remember
>>how to
>> read and write something other than emails.
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Sally Haslanger
>> Professor of Philosophy and Women's and Gender Studies
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> http://sallyhaslanger.weebly.com
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Tangren Alexander
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>> As an Emerita Professor, I'm wondering why we retired women are not =
>> represented.
>> No need to answer, but please think about it.
>> Best,
>> Tangren Alexander
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Sally Haslanger wrote:
>>
>> Dear all:
>>
>> I would like to let you know about a new directory of women =
>> philosophers. It can be found at:
>>
>> www.womenofphilosophy.com<http://www.womenofphilosophy.com>.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a crowd-sourced database searchable by 1) name, 2) school, 3) =
>> faculty position, 4) areas of specialization, 5) primary research =
>> interests, and 6) geographical location. It currently contains over 650
>>=
>> names of women philosophers working on faculties of higher education =
>> across the world. As it stands, the listing is far from comprehensive, =
>> and we are relying on the goodwill of members of the profession to keep
>>=
>> the database up-to-date and as comprehensive as possible.=20
>>
>>
>>
>> Women with a Ph.D. in philosophy holding a faculty position (e.g., =
>> post-doc, adjunct, tenure-track, tenured, etc.) should check if they =
>> have an entry in the database and send any additions or corrections =
>> under the =91Submit=92 tab. Please use that tab to add yourself if you =
>> are not currently listed. We invite anyone to submit a name, including =
>> names of women in philosophy outside of the U.S.
>>
>>
>>
>> The database should be an invaluable resource for conference
>>organizers, =
>> editors, hiring committees, and anyone interested in learning more
>>about =
>> the work of women in the profession. Please spread the word!
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy! Sally
>>
>>
>>
>> Work to produce this database was completed by a team of volunteers. =
>> Thanks to the Committee on the Status of Women and MIT for their =
>> support, and to all those who have contributed.
>>
>>
>>
>> =
>>
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>> Please note: I am on sabbatical this term. If I have not been prompt
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>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> http://sallyhaslanger.weebly.com
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>>an =
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>> represented.<div>No need to answer, but please think about =
>> it.</div><div>Best,</div><div>Tangren =
>> Alexander</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 20, 2014, at =
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>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial">I would like to let you know about a new =
>> directory of women philosophers. It can be found at:</span><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Helvetica"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial"><a
>>href=3D"http://www.womenofphilosophy.com/" =
>>
>target=3D"_blank">www.womenofphilosophy.com<http://www.womenofphilosophy.c
>om></a>.</span><span
>> =
>> style=3D"font-family:Helvetica"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial"><br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial">This is a crowd-sourced database searchable
>>=
>> by 1) name, 2) school, 3) faculty position, 4) areas of specialization,
>>=
>> 5) primary research interests, and 6) geographical location. It =
>> currently contains over 650 names of women philosophers working on =
>> faculties of higher education across the world. <span =
>> style=3D"color:rgb(20,20,20)">As it stands, the listing is far from =
>> comprehensive, and we are relying on the goodwill of members of the =
>> profession to keep the database up-to-date and as comprehensive as =
>> possible. </span></span><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Helvetica"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial"><span =
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>>class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
>> <span style=3D"font-family:Arial">Women with a Ph.D. in philosophy =
>> holding a faculty position (e.g., post-doc, adjunct, tenure-track, =
>> tenured, etc.) should check if they have an entry in the database and =
>> send any additions or corrections under the =91Submit=92 tab. Please
>>use =
>> that tab to add yourself if you are not currently listed. We invite =
>> anyone to submit a name, including names of women in philosophy outside
>>=
>> of the U.S.</span><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Helvetica"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial"><br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(37,15,45)">The database should be =
>> an invaluable resource for conference organizers, editors, hiring =
>> committees, and anyone interested in learning more about the work of =
>> women in the profession. Please spread the word!</span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(37,15,45)"><br></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(37,15,45)">Enjoy! =
>> Sally</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
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>> style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(37,15,45)"><br></span></p><p =
>> class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>> style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(37,15,45)">Work to produce this =
>> database was completed by a team of volunteers. Thanks to the Committee
>>=
>> on the Status of Women and MIT for their support, and to all those who =
>> have contributed.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
>> style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span =
>>
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