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Andrea Zagaria <[log in to unmask]>
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tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]>
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Sorry for the grammatical mistakes, I m typing from my phone (*sayS, stemS)

Il mar 23 giu 2020 21:28 Andrea Zagaria <[log in to unmask]> ha
scritto:

> Micheal and Liz, thank you for your answers.
>
>  Don't get me wrong, I am actually very far from idealizing America. If
> you want I can share with you my thoughts about it.
> Just to note the first things that come to my mind: Nancy McWilliams, when
> talking about the "national" personality disorder, say that America suffers
> from narcissistic personality disorder. Being a bystander, that fits
> perfectly well. In her syntethic theorization, narcissistic structures stem
> from a vacuum of identity: "I don t know who I am, so I cannibalize others,
> I always search for a reflection of myself in others rather than genuine
> relationships". Well if you think about the history of U.S. that is not
> comparable with european history, it's actually an historical vacuum, and
> the foreign politics (imperialism) follow as such. There is also something
> shallow, rhetorical, forcibly spectacular, from my european perspective, in
> the american way of communicating.
>
> In turn, Europe is often like a liverish old man.
>
> Il mar 23 giu 2020 20:12 Michael Mascolo <[log in to unmask]> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Andrea:
>>
>> The grass is always greener on the other side of the pond, methinks!!!
>>
>> M.
>>
>> *Michael F. Mascolo, Ph.D.*
>> Academic Director, Compass Program
>> Professor, Department of Psychology
>> Merrimack College, North Andover, MA 01845
>> 978.837.3503 (office)
>> 978.979.8745 (cell)
>>
>> Political Conversations Study: *www.CreatingCommonGround.org
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.creatingcommonground.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LZq-OowIY0nDlNK1XlEocwCkcWJaoFC4GAQd6bQKYMs&s=mmmBp3Qq0tulf2Ki98KhSqqUi885zJPo-rKMVApbrM8&e=>*
>> Blog: Values Matter
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_values-2Dmatter&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LZq-OowIY0nDlNK1XlEocwCkcWJaoFC4GAQd6bQKYMs&s=oL0qmzKrrr_dP7bOBH40kEMZBcUDBw7mUDpLe2qKeiI&e=>
>> Journal: Pedagogy and the Human Sciences
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scholarworks.merrimack.edu_phs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LZq-OowIY0nDlNK1XlEocwCkcWJaoFC4GAQd6bQKYMs&s=oqCERZKmhjhb-3qZ2_044QObQ7hT6LE8ioqJbMjeebE&e=>
>> Coaching and Author Website: www.michaelmascolo.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.michaelmascolo.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LZq-OowIY0nDlNK1XlEocwCkcWJaoFC4GAQd6bQKYMs&s=hFajDIMf2Gc8melaHI5r2UL_VhpMPqMS_ylIHtQWbi4&e=>
>> Academia Home Page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__merrimack.academia.edu_MichaelMascolo&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LB2aApicKJSoveIOmyj_QVfo_H4KKZPXeAQIJTOFpAM&s=HyYBHDEAcGu8Yf_eXKVJ8zrnQyjCFIaWK3C0KT3RPjY&e= 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__merrimack.academia.edu_MichaelMascolo&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LZq-OowIY0nDlNK1XlEocwCkcWJaoFC4GAQd6bQKYMs&s=thRZoNW1fMMf-jJCQXWgvmzt4BUMsnLpHMCtpAAQKT8&e=>
>>
>> "*Things move, persons act.*" -- Kenneth Burke
>> "*If it's not worth doing, it's not worth doing well*." -- Donald Hebb
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Andrea Zagaria <[log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Mmm. It`s sad when people are not interested in fostering a dialogue.
>>
>> As a European myself, I have to acknowledge an important fact: we may
>> have a great philosophical tradition, but often we are very narrow minded
>> and we are not very able to connect theory with practice.
>> The "american way", in this regard, is very much better. Better
>> communication, better connection between theory and practice, more clarity
>> in explanations. Many europeans think, often unconsciously, the more
>> obscure you are, the more profound. They also like idiosyncrasies and the
>> ego_biased tendecy to the paternity of a theory, rather than its content.
>> Such an idiocy.
>> That is the reason why, in my opinion, Lacanian psychoanalysis has many
>> followers in Europe, much less in America (at least as far as I know).
>>
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> Il mar 23 giu 2020 16:18 Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>
>>>   Yes, I am familiar with her work. It is interesting and I tried to
>>> engage her in an exchange to see the overlap between our systems. She was a
>>> reviewer of the Periodic Table of Behavior paper. My take was that there
>>> were clear ways to line up our visions (although I did note to myself that
>>> there appeared to be a problematic dualism that you note). Anyway, she did
>>> not seem terribly interested in fostering a dialogue. She was not a fan of
>>> how I was connecting to behaviorism and she did not feel like I had done my
>>> homework on European theorists. At least that was my read. Joe M. was in on
>>> the exchange. He can pipe in if he sees it differently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I think she has developed a cool system. I just don’t think it
>>> quite goes deep enough into the descriptive metaphysical issues of mind and
>>> matter to get quite the right lay of the land.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gregg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Andrea Zagaria
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:27 AM
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>> *Subject:* Transdisciplinary Philosophy of Science Paradigm
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi TOK list,
>>> As my target article about evolutionary psychology as a meta-theory
>>> continues to be commented on, I bumped into a comment by Jana Uher.
>>> She developed a unifying framework named* TPS-P *(Transdisciplinary
>>> Philosophy of Science Paradigm for  Research on Individuals) Here a
>>> link for a summary: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__researchonindividuals.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LB2aApicKJSoveIOmyj_QVfo_H4KKZPXeAQIJTOFpAM&s=eK4Mvxfv0Fid7lPWQi4LowJ9nMNRn3EJCsNxRqrAxKk&e= 
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__researchonindividuals.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PteCbF0_3SxYaCXICP5v7TZuEkSegG4Wve5qaszPOs8&s=ue8DIMAoaBDPSljWFGn0PKlYnHPRyaMgoovlsVqv6rE&e=>
>>> I still have to study it properly, for now what I find not convincing is
>>> her characterization of psychical vs physical, with spatiality as a
>>> defining feature of physical and not of psychical. It seems, to my eyes, a
>>> classic dualistic cartesian distinction: RES COGITANS (mind) vs RES EXTENSA
>>> (matter). (
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__researchonindividuals.org_tps-2Dparadigm-5Fmetatheoretical.htm&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=LB2aApicKJSoveIOmyj_QVfo_H4KKZPXeAQIJTOFpAM&s=nIgWhgS9B2i0kAj16W979bJUE79YXcxPHSHtln4bKKE&e= 
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__researchonindividuals.org_tps-2Dparadigm-5Fmetatheoretical.htm&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=PteCbF0_3SxYaCXICP5v7TZuEkSegG4Wve5qaszPOs8&s=9GUmoJJG6dA4ncoz_j1cuSWAYHuPoJpN6zPUxFPGkQ4&e=>
>>> )
>>>
>>> As Gregg points out, thinking about the ultimate unit of physics as
>>> matter is now out-dated;  it is better to think of
>>> Energy-Matter-Information.
>>>
>>> Are you familiar with her work? Any thoughts about it?
>>>
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> P.S. I found out this morning that also Mike (Mascolo) published a
>>> commentary on my article. I just looked over it, and still have to read it
>>> properly, but thanks Mike….
>>>
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