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Hi All,
  Thanks much for the stimulating contributions. I will offer some thoughts soon, so that perhaps we can sort out where it is where we are standing, both as a group and as individuals who have all been on long and intense journeys trying to figure out some of the most complex problems in philosophy. I think we all have interesting things to say.

Warm regards to all!

Best,
G

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> On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Diop, Corinne Joan Martin - diopcj <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Thank you-- and thank you also for the correction! Cantor has emerged again in a small body of work I am doing on people named Georg(e/es), so I will be sure to look into this intrigue before exhibiting/writing about it again! (The others are Braque, Gurdjieff and Sand...)
> 
> Corinne 
> ________________________________________
> From: tree of knowledge system discussion [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Mark Stahlman [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 2:04 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New Paradigms
> 
> Corrine:
> 
> Thanks -- fascinating and beautifully done . . . !!
> 
> Small correction, if you don't mind.  Galileo's astronomy didn't
> really "threaten" anything and his problems with the Church were quite
> different from the usual accounts, having more to with his anti-Rome
> Venetian backers (btw, my "godfather" Giorgio Desantillana wrote the
> one-time "definitive" work on the topic and my father helped to design
> what is now the Galileo Museum in Florence) and it was Cantor who
> approached Franzelin, who pretty much blew him off (i.e. the Church
> really didn't care what he was doing).
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Crime-2DGalileo-2DGiorgio-2DSantillana_dp_0226734811&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=Bfq1ppMS3XgQnnQpYnIZ8wC_97XYRZJRxUuB1rAMdwc&e=
> 
> Mark
> 
> P.S. The usual reports about G. Bruno's troubles are also mistaken.
> It had little to do with his "heresy."  In fact, as best as I can
> tell, he was an "agent" of the English spymaster Walsingham and was
> caught organizing against the Vatican.  We often forget how much
> "intrigue" was going on in those days and how often Rome was on the
> receiving end (as well as dishing it out) -- plus how they were
> finally defeated in the mid-19th century after many centuries of
> declining influence.
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Francis-5FWalsingham&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=IYy1BIydW2s5dWUnNTYIYOmAhcjKtdkXhsxHKkAcdVo&e=
> 
> Quoting "Diop, Corinne Joan Martin - diopcj" <[log in to unmask]>:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just sharing some of my artwork that relates a bit :)
>> 
>> "Sizing the Infinite, Seeking Eternity," about Georg Cantor was
>> done in collaboration with E. Theta Brown, Associate Professor of Math
>> 
>> Cover and pp. 11 – 16. (Photographs and essay.)
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__kapsula.ca_releases_KAPSULA-5FGOODMEASURE-5F3of3.pdf&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=BwEKKzPLdUHIfojBBcw4PN3O97YYW0fasOi23LN38O0&e=
>> 
>> 
>> Corinne
>> 
>> PS I have artwork about Gregg's ideas from some years ago that got
>> buried somewhere in my studio after a move-- when I unearth it I
>> will share!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Corinne Diop
>> Professor of Art
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_corinne.diop.studio_&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=KwQnikKeu_aL_IJaCKzcXiouQheSnbFsIVXtYmyKCZg&e=
>> 
>> Photography Area Head
>> http://www.jmu.edu/artandarthistory/programs/Photography.shtml
>> 
>> School of Art, Design, and Art History
>> MSC 7101/ 820 S. Main St
>> James Madison University
>> Harrisonburg, VA  22807
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: tree of knowledge system discussion
>> [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Mark Stahlman
>> [[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 10:13 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: New Paradigms
>> 
>> John/Joe/Gregg &al:
>> 
>> What Gregg has done here may be the *first* time this has ever been
>> accomplished (or perhaps even attempted).  While many have
>> "philosophized" over all this, Gregg has actually assembled a group
>> of experts (which decades of detailed knowledge as well as
>> experience arguing with their domain-expert colleagues.)  Hurray . .
>> . !!
>> 
>> Tree of Knowledge Stack
>> 
>> Culture :: Sociology (Joe)
>> Mind :: Psychology (Gregg)
>> Life :: Biology (John)
>> Matter :: Physics (???)
>> 
>> Does the "lower" define the "upper" or are there new *principles*
>> that must be added at each level (or what Gregg calls "dimensions of
>> complexity") . . . ??
>> 
>> In the 19th-century, during what was a very different paradigm from
>> the one in which we live Bernhard Reimann suggested what some call
>> the "hypothesis of the higher hypothesis" and Georg Cantor generated
>> his Transfinite schema in attempts to *rigorously* tackle this
>> conundrum.  Both of them have largely been forgotten today and this
>> was replaced with the notion of a "Theory of Everything" (ToE) and
>> "Unity of Science" (as per Carnap &al) in the 20th-century -- as a
>> result of the new paradigm in which those scientists lived (but not
>> the same one as ours).
>> 
>> "Quantum" physics caught many people's attention and, for a while,
>> seemed to be the answer -- but then it failed to produce a ToE and
>> dissolved into a group of rival splinters until it was revived by
>> some "hippies" who were living under yet-another paradigm (yes, as
>> it turns out, I know Jack Sarfatti and he is an entertaining sorta
>> guy, whose ideas were enhanced by both some LSD and some
>> "conspiracies" that he imagines he was a part of) . . . <g>
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_How-2DHippies-2DSaved-2DPhysics-2DCounterculture_dp_039334231X&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=z21gNwg3Phhb8zDjPEWwYZZnnuOW0Vep1M486cPwhDQ&e=
>> 
>> So much for physics -- but wait there is more!  The US *military*
>> decided it wanted to take some Los Alamos bomb-desingers and shuffle
>> them across-the-street to a new place that was called the Santa Fe
>> Institute, to see if the physics of nuclear weapons (i.e.
>> mini-stars) could be applied to society.  The Department of Energy
>> (which owns the US arsenal, not the service branches) initially
>> funded them 100% (and now it's 30% with another 30% coming from
>> Pierre Omidyar).
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.santafe.edu_&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=AWiCJq0W3SGK9QXs99_ukwq3kcCNbrSUTQmPezjvzTE&e=
>> 
>> The result was "complexity science" -- re-branding "chaos," since
>> that frightens the children -- and its elaborate models of
>> "emergence."  Some of us from the Center spent last Spring with
>> these folks (in particular, Jim Rutt, long-time chairman and now
>> trustee at Santa Fe) and I can tell you they don't have a clue (and
>> are unlikely to ever get one.)
>> 
>> So, Physics as failed (multiple times).  How about Biology or
>> Psychology or Sociology?  As John tells us, biology is broken.  As,
>> Gregg tells us, psychology is broken.  As Joe tells us, sociology is
>> broken.  So, what are we going to do . . . ??
>> 
>> My suggestion is that we take a look at *paradigms* behind these
>> approaches and their causes/effects.  This is the study of the
>> "structure of scientific revolutions" (as per Thomas Kuhn, although
>> he never explained either the causes or effects) and, to accomplish
>> that task, we will need Marshall McLuhan -- which we will do when
>> Gregg returns.
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Structure-2DScientific-2DRevolutions-2D50th-2DAnniversary_dp_0226458121&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=Wjt2pfZZFEZZ8hHd1Gi8N-e6L0fJp0jNpkVaXTqhbOw&e=
>> 
>> To do this, we will have to do something that has been "forgotten"
>> for 400+ years -- understand *formal* cause.  Fortunately, Aristotle
>> is there to help us (since he's the one who came up with this idea
>> in the first place, 2500 years ago) and, even more fortuitously, we
>> are now in a new paradigm (otherwise, we wouldn't be having this
>> conversation).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> P.S. The previous paradigm was characterized by "globalism" and what
>> was called the "new world order" (i.e. the one that Kuhn was
>> plumping for, as funded by the Ford Foundation) and it has now
>> collapsed.  Yes, this is what keeps Henry Kissinger awake at night.
>> This is why Trump was elected, Briexit occured and the 5 Star
>> Movement now runs Italy &c.  This is also why we are now in another
>> "counter-culture" (parallel to the 60s), since that's what happens
>> to *culture* when paradigms shift (over-and-over, making its
>> explanation a top priority for a "pure" sociology).  This is the
>> focus of my Center (and,, yes, I also know John Ralston Saul).
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Collapse-2DGlobalism-2DJ-2DR-2DSaul_dp_1786494485&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=4kvjg0j27G60OZOmJLQm4GmRSyKFwNZpRY6JwkeZ9WY&e=
>> 
>> P.P.S.  The "cheerio conspiracy" in all this is that the *center* of
>> maintaining that now obsolete paradigm was the Government
>> Communications Head-Quarters (GCHQ) which is the foundation of what
>> some now call the "Deep State."  Edward Snowden had a lot to say
>> about them in terms of their acronym, "Five Eyes," making Trump's
>> upcoming meeting with the Queen very interesting -- since the "Deep
>> State" actually reports to her (yes, making Canada an actual
>> national security threat) . . . !!
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Five-5FEyes&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=s3ScNTD00fGwqUNtQsPGQEQcsbcSOwQaTNEYyxaajZA&e=
>> 
>> P.P.P.S. Since our confusion about all this has been going on for a
>> long-time, we will have to "drop back" and try to recover what
>> previous paradigms -- such as the "Enlightenment" &c -- have
>> destroyed.  That is the origin of the "motto" on the Center website
>> that "Digital *retrieves* the Medieval" and, from ISIS reviving
>> *medieval* Jihad, to the Chinese reviving the *medieval* "Silk
>> Road," it is already the world in which we live.  As Marty McKly put
>> it, "Doc, it's time to go back to the future" . . . <g>
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Back-5Fto-5Fthe-5FFuture&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=B4o24kuAh19SX2ks1cGJ_arOZDTP30QffE62ZH6ORwI&e=
>> 
>> P.P.P.P.S. What we have to try to avoid, as difficult as it may be,
>> is to not behave "like a drunk looking for our carkeys underneath
>> the streetlamp, because that's where the light is."  The recently
>> past paradigms have seriously screwed us up.  This is why we are in
>> such terrible condition -- which, btw, is not the situation in
>> China, where its historic civilization is now the focus of study at
>> the Central Party School (where CPC cadre are trained in Beijing) --
>> and *all* of our attempts at "coherence" have failed.  But, we're in
>> luck, Aristotle is there to help us (which is why Summer School at
>> the Center is teaching his 4th-century BC "On the Soul".)
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Soul-2DMemory-2DRecollection-2DAristotle_dp_1888009179&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=8qMQODcDkzHIMIPWHwejYDRD8zDMlzuSjEgeHBa8lGA&s=tcrM699HyAbsXoXcHy52dE-oXdz66F8YcxXYBoZt4iY&e=
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