Hi Gregg,
I suppose you have some correctness there on a technicality. And I agree,
the white moderate of today is a very subtle problem, where many claim to
already be woke, but still don't have radical enough politics... but even
in King's day the white moderate was not racist, they were friendly to
black people/ culture. I think the point he's making is that white
moderates VASTLY outnumber the KKK, so, in proportion, the former is a much
larger and systemic obstacle than just Klansmen. It's about the politics...
What sort of commitment are they willing to make? Like, I think Joe Biden
is not even a white moderate... I think he's more dangerous than that,
because he authored a racist crime bill. This why people just call him
racist, as a shorthand, even though he was Obama's VP. And to be sure, I'm
not singling you out. I actually think pretty much everyone in the
metamodern list or Emerge space is white moderate. This is why I'm now
actively engaging this topic, given what is happening in the world. I have
never been a white moderate, and if anything, I show up these spaces as a
black radical... speaking with that discourse, as a white person. And I'm
burning it all down buddy, so hop on my train! I've started to take down
the illustrious "GameB"
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_the-2Dabs-2Dtract-2Dorganization_game-2Db-2Dullshit-2D3d9294d75e23&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=9mSEO2EOdYPh9Chn7b_lGHilR99rb40AqIwxb-UOPqo&s=8szAOLDMf88lcoSRBf3mOHQNy6P73e1M1X7KJH_gQXU&e= >
because, like the IDW, they were harbouring some really anti-sociological
stuff and actual racist people. This is the time to be paying close
attention to what's happening in the streets, and what those people are
saying.
I'm having more Zooms these days, and maybe recording, so if you want to
get in on the action we can! I'm flexible.
Regards,
Brent
On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:04 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Thanks, Brent. I am sure you have better things to spend your time than
> the “effort” you suggest here 😊.
>
>
>
> One comment I will make, though, as it has been thrown around a lot
> recently and I want to alert folks to it, which is that of “white moderate”
> characterization. Not sure if this was your frame or not, but for those who
> are not aware, the characterization of white moderate is often used in
> reference to a quote Dr. King, from his powerful 1963 Letter from the
> Birmingham Jail
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.africa.upenn.edu_Articles-5FGen_Letter-5FBirmingham.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=9mSEO2EOdYPh9Chn7b_lGHilR99rb40AqIwxb-UOPqo&s=Ki4IPA73pN0LZ0Ghs8N9l8jz310XzLXISTO-XmciIR8&e= >, as
> here:
>
>
>
> “I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely
> disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable
> conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward
> freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but
> the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who
> prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive
> peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with
> you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct
> action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for
> another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who
> constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season."
> Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than
> absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is
> much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
>
>
>
> No one should be confused by this. The “white moderate” of King’s day is
> likely significantly more racist than the vast majority of “alt-right”
> folks today. Thus, it simply is an apples to oranges comparison. One big
> reason is that the definition of racism has changed (see here
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201809_racism-2Dtwo-2Dvery-2Ddifferent-2Dmeanings-2Dthe-2Dword&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=9mSEO2EOdYPh9Chn7b_lGHilR99rb40AqIwxb-UOPqo&s=cyEord7P_F5FyBMKLupDEc8uQTAKX-UnKUziVWjVvGI&e= >),
> such that a white moderate in King’s day was someone who was moderately
> racist in the explicit belief that the races were real and that whites were
> superior*. *This is, of course, is quite different from the question of
> how anti-racist one must be to pass the litmus test of being a person of
> good will, which seems to be the way many use the frame today.
>
>
>
> The implication in using the characterization that King would look at
> someone like Haidt—or me for that matter—and think him to be “a greater
> stumbling block” than the “Klanner” is the kind of off-putting rhetoric
> that makes folks like me move away from the extreme left.
>
>
>
> I am happy to set up a zoom if you like. These kinds of exchanges are
> often more constructive face to face.
>
>
>
> Take care, friend.
>
> Gregg
>
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> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Brent Cooper
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:58 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Article on Haidt
>
>
>
> I am not a fan of Haidt, as you know. I'm wondering if it's even worth my
> effort right now to dive into everything that's wrong with this article and
> your worship of him. I can prove it. All you have to do is care enough to
> be challenged in this regard.
>
>
>
> America is having a race war and Haidt does not have any of the answers or
> solutions. He's a white moderate, one of the worst. He teaches "ethics" in
> Business. Get over him please.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:36 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi TOK List,
>
> I recommend this article on Jon Haidt:
>
> *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theatlantic.com_ideas_archive_2020_05_jonathan-2Dhaidt-2Dpandemic-2Dand-2Damericas-2Dpolarization_612025_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=9mSEO2EOdYPh9Chn7b_lGHilR99rb40AqIwxb-UOPqo&s=qZ-r8jARb772t79pZyqd6gq6Z7p4u8AO-kzVYHEaq7g&e=
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.theatlantic.com_ideas_archive_2020_05_jonathan-2Dhaidt-2Dpandemic-2Dand-2Damericas-2Dpolarization_612025_&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uKJiPteLduF41QdSmk3kzzqT74697nnM2gVPRmEIRSQ&s=nWi7IOfMykz6WmmlxcX-GZaI9addaUQIc9xbVp-f_zA&e=>*
>
>
>
> I am a fan of his work, as a blog I did a while back reflects
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201201_jonathan-2Dhaidts-2Dmoral-2Dpolitical-2Dpsychology&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=uKJiPteLduF41QdSmk3kzzqT74697nnM2gVPRmEIRSQ&s=LWoSZtWKkmTb2RjD2O2PB3WbGACWQPww7Rxp_8U81II&e=>.
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>
>
> Best,
> Gregg
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