Most of it stems from a culture that permits child abuse.  Many Americans
believe that punishment is an effective learning tool, and that beating
children protects them from Satanic impulses and influence.

A lot of times police are treating suspects as violently as they treat
their own children and wives.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:31 AM Andrea Zagaria <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Yeah, I didn't mean to get things simplistic, as I have a deep respect for
> the black community.
>
> I just wondered if that hypothesis could someway match; I can't really
> understand the violence of the police on black people, I think it is not
> comparable to any other western State, like the mass shootings phenomena.
>
> Being a bystander can be a weakness or sometimes a strength, I think. I
> didn't mean to be offensive to "America".
>
> From the outside, the racial issue is intrinsically paradoxical: many of
> the most famous and influent VIPs all over the world are Afro-American, yet
> a man can be chocked in the street while being filmed. Why?
> It`s paradoxical, I was just trying to get a sense of it.
>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
> Andrea
>
> Il ven 12 giu 2020 17:46 Chance McDermott <[log in to unmask]> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Andrea,
>>
>> I think that the race situation in "America" is far too complicated for
>> any outsider to understand.
>>
>> For example, some of my black friends tell me that black lives matter is
>> a divisive tool that they want no part of, but performatively sometimes go
>> along with to avoid the stress and heat from activists.  One of my black
>> friends is a retired black panther and boot-legger, and the other is a
>> successful black doctor with deep roots in the deep south African American
>> community.  Another is a former blood gang member who now coaches troubled
>> youth.  And yet another specializes in black-mailing closeted white man for
>> social leverage.
>>
>> Open to discussing further. . .
>>
>> namaste
>>
>> -Chance
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:39 AM Andrea Zagaria <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi TOK society,
>>> I am Italian and I have never been in the U.S., but I have been
>>> wondering for a while now about the current states of affairs in North
>>> America, regarding the racial discrimination.
>>> I have had several conversations with my girlfriend, who has been deeply
>>> immersed in the american popular culture since she was a kid. She thinks
>>> that the american hostility toward black people is somewhat qualitatively
>>> different from the European one.
>>> Shortly, she thinks that the main reason is historical: northern america
>>> has had black people as slaves, Europe has not (at least not in such a
>>> degree). So the european racism might be something different, more like a
>>> "fear" of the stranger than a genuine belief of superiority, or a
>>> justification system of exploitation.
>>>
>>> The nazionalsocialism and fascism could be immediately called into
>>> discussion to deny such hypothesis: the superiority of race has never been
>>> declared so clearly, yet the main hostility at the times was against Jews
>>> rather than against black people, and also in that case the reasons could
>>> be framed as historical.
>>>
>>> Do you think it is a valid hypothesis? Is there any literature about
>>> that?
>>>
>>> Thanks four your posts.
>>>
>>> Andrea Zagaria
>>>
>>> Il ven 12 giu 2020 14:34 Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
>>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ari, Kacey, Zak, Joe and others who have commented on this thread,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Many, many thanks for these heartfelt, moving, authentic expressions.
>>>> To me, these are the ingredients of people of goodwill attempting to come
>>>> together to enhance dignity and well-being with integrity. I am very much
>>>> looking forward to the next two community TOK-Thrive meetings on building
>>>> bridges to create common ground with Mike and hearing the panel discussion
>>>> on perspectives of women of color led by Paulihna.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   These exchanges make me proud to be part of this community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Gregg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Wilson, Katherine
>>>> Christine - wilso3kc (Dukes)
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:50 PM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Two articles on Policing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Joe, Yes, Thank You! I appreciate your rant immensely and hope you
>>>> don’t retire too soon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ari,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this is a beautiful piece you have written that captures so much of
>>>> what I see white liberals and moderates in my generation struggling with. I
>>>> have written something similar in my head many times, but have feared that
>>>> sharing at this point would incur the rebukes and judgments from peers who
>>>> would see me as a part of the problem, less woke, and worthy of disdain.
>>>> Which perhaps is accurate, but not a palatable pill to swallow. For anyone
>>>> with a heart or nervous system, these are tough times to open your mouth
>>>> from a place of vulnerability or honesty, especially if it doesn’t resound
>>>> with the broader chorus that is undoubtedly several beats ahead of me
>>>> in waking up to what has been going on for centuries. I “knew” about
>>>> racism, but I didn’t “know”… I didn’t feel it in my bones every day, and
>>>> stare it in the face, and feel for my friends of color every time a micro
>>>> aggression passed me by as I moved forward unaware of what had even
>>>> transpired. That level of blindness is shocking to wake up too. Unnerving
>>>> and horrifying.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see friends teetering on hiding in a corner right now because the
>>>> sense of shame and judgment from others, and a sense of not “getting it” or
>>>> not “getting it right enough.” I can imagine that shame is a tiny fraction
>>>> of what BIPOC/QTPOC have experienced for centuries.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I really feel you when you write, "This is an enormous collective
>>>> wound, I cannot heal it in myself quickly. I’m sorry.” I am right there
>>>> with you; the healing is slow and even catching the subtle ways in which
>>>> racism, historical systems of oppression, values of colonization and
>>>> capitalism, competition, and meritocracy show up in me are sneaky,
>>>> slippery, and hard to catch, check, and change (and I can often only do so
>>>> in hindsight initially). In many ways the “doing” U.S. culture I grew up
>>>> and swim within has trained me not to FEEL what is happening so that I
>>>> don’t even know how divorced I am from self and others at times (let alone
>>>> nature and other species). I feel we have immense work before us, and work
>>>> that is going to be triggering, threatening, painful, and require a level
>>>> of solidarity, compassion, patience, courage, persistence, and
>>>> collaboration with thoughtful, grounded, and wise leaders across various
>>>> fields, just to move the needle. I think we can do this work, and I think
>>>> we need unity more than condemnation of those just beginning to acknowledge
>>>> the ways in which the system has been and is broken.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a mixed Irish American, who is also a descendant from slaves on my
>>>> father’s side (this is my great grandfather:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.baltimoresun.com_news_bs-2Dxpm-2D1994-2D01-2D25-2D1994025180-2Dstory.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XCyS8sUUNvzWX0rjg8s57yN6SdBKAfTyAQX6iclIkuI&s=Ta1lH977KyCnQut1kbtioXA9mVYhhk0f71lsn2T5jhw&e= 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.baltimoresun.com_news_bs-2Dxpm-2D1994-2D01-2D25-2D1994025180-2Dstory.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=rQSowxTdRId-O4jkNvr4L8IFvh7g5hFAI8LSNFTwCKg&s=FrGmXlfrLBiNc77zgaKlqUBI27IndXHsijmxn28DcaY&e=>),
>>>> I am a white passing person with a white-washed lineage due to a family
>>>> history of fear of retribution for the color of one’s skin (that led to
>>>> choices about who to marry and have children with). This history lives in
>>>> our DNA, and is woven into the fabric of everything that the U.S. is built
>>>> upon. We have to collectively take ownership for it, and figure out what
>>>> legacy we want to leave behind. No two of us are going to see, feel, and
>>>> recognize this time for what it is in the same way. And that is the power
>>>> and vulnerability of “the epistemological problem” (
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201910_there-2Dare-2Dtwo-2Dhard-2Dproblems-2Dconsciousness-2Dnot-2Done&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XCyS8sUUNvzWX0rjg8s57yN6SdBKAfTyAQX6iclIkuI&s=FgsujqhgWT0K8PAEgNy_vKvx04Hur7qkg17p8Qw19EM&e= 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.psychologytoday.com_us_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201910_there-2Dare-2Dtwo-2Dhard-2Dproblems-2Dconsciousness-2Dnot-2Done&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=rQSowxTdRId-O4jkNvr4L8IFvh7g5hFAI8LSNFTwCKg&s=Po8TMQMAIGr_tEyI-ew7F-x6mT5878_8SQCxxDPUcog&e=>
>>>> ) as Gregg has outlined.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have to find a method, practice, linguistic tool, set of agreements,
>>>> etc. to come together to really understand the summation of the collective
>>>> experience, discrepancies, injustices, various viewpoints, to even have the
>>>> right “data” to work with to paint a clear picture. Maybe this is what
>>>> the “Singularity” will actually be about (assuming it is a benevolent
>>>> singularity that works in the collective interests of humanity in general).
>>>> So while the systems of current data collection may be limited and
>>>> inherently biased due to the foundations upon which they operate, perhaps
>>>> this is changing in a direction that, if intentionally and consciously
>>>> employed, could curate a more clear picture of where we have been and
>>>> the possibilities of where to go from here with the most optimal outcome
>>>> for all. This is super idealistic, but I am honestly too afraid to consider
>>>> alternatives that could be coming down the pipeline…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has already figured out the solution, and can explain to us
>>>> like we are six-year-olds (as not all of us share a genius IQ here, but
>>>> still want to help!), I entreat you to do so. For what better moment should
>>>> solutions be proffered?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, "young person rant” is now over.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> p.s. for those interested in a faith-based perspective on racism, here
>>>> is webinar from a Baha’i professor that I found insightful:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wilmetteinstitute.org_centering-2Dthe-2Dpupil-2Dof-2Dthe-2Deye_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XCyS8sUUNvzWX0rjg8s57yN6SdBKAfTyAQX6iclIkuI&s=CaR5pAlrKuHCP0A6Gvs-4FzF34k4ae_pOrfmFy0GOlk&e= 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wilmetteinstitute.org_centering-2Dthe-2Dpupil-2Dof-2Dthe-2Deye_&d=DwMGaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=rQSowxTdRId-O4jkNvr4L8IFvh7g5hFAI8LSNFTwCKg&s=i1rcCRgDbLM01xS202JHUdwjRqZ8NC3pZdkooVqcKE8&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Ari Delashmutt <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe's rant was pretty epic and knocked me in the head hard. It made
>>>> some things click. I wrote an article about said things, Medium says its a
>>>> 6 minute read. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_-40ariintheair_inquiring-2Dabout-2Dall-2Dlives-2Dmatter-2D3a248f6e568&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XCyS8sUUNvzWX0rjg8s57yN6SdBKAfTyAQX6iclIkuI&s=D9-1gj1MQVKJ3QuF-Z_PeJ_2rdQ7Avv5lDvWlFvxbQI&e= 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__medium.com_-40ariintheair_inquiring-2Dabout-2Dall-2Dlives-2Dmatter-2D3a248f6e568&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=zBJ6lBDpCiQ4Bhq3euXX5MZVnTU26c6Dwa6pgV0hj3Q&s=1nPhh9I2G6sNcfQdNXTlBXMG1P33L3umcXo8VIJrIXI&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With love,
>>>>
>>>> Ari
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:44 AM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe,
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks for this analysis. Very helpful in clarifying the sociological
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Gregg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Joseph Michalski
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:04 PM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Two articles on Policing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With all due respect, I simply cannot support a "50-50, he said, she
>>>> said" approach to the analysis the state of policing and justification
>>>> systems invoked to support particular agendas. Please feel free to ignore
>>>> the following "rant" from a stereotypical "left-wing" sociologist, yours
>>>> truly. I don't agree w/ that characterization, but what choice do I have?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even if one could step outside of the political firestorm, the social
>>>> scientific theories and certainly the empirical evidence - including that
>>>> which Heather MacDonald (author, btw, of a book that I read a couple years
>>>> ago titled * The War on Cops*) cites - points to deep-seated biases &
>>>> differential treatment, as well as real-life differential outcomes for what
>>>> happens to "real people" in "real communities." But the discourse is so
>>>> tilted in the U.S. (even moreso than in Canada where I live) that it would
>>>> take far too much time to make the case for why even much of the discourse
>>>> even in the current framing tends to be far more "right-wing" and
>>>> conservative, as well as at odds with the social scientific literature.
>>>> MacDonald states that "I urge this committee to reject the proposition that
>>>> law enforcement today is systemically biased. The evidence does not support
>>>> that charge." And yet her own highly distorted & limited presentation of
>>>> the numbers *still* provides evidence of biases in policing and
>>>> disproportionate surveillance & criminalization of African-American (and
>>>> racialized minorities) in general. And, of course, she ignores the far
>>>> wider range of evidence that's even more damning and that would subvert her
>>>> claims entirely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But here's the bigger point. Most people ignore the fact that if you
>>>> want "more crime," then hold constant civilian behavior and simply increase
>>>> the number of police. More surveillance alone leads to more crime, all else
>>>> constant. More people looking for "bad behavior" will lead to more
>>>> observations, more arrests, etc. And who's in positions to "identify" and
>>>> "observe" and then "sanction" perceived crime? Those in positions of social
>>>> advantage and power. And that story has not changed all that much, despite
>>>> the civil rights movement of the 1960s. Law enforcement continues to be
>>>> highly skewed and biased, almost regardless of the metric that you use.
>>>> Tons of empirical stuff does not even get counted, such as the # of times
>>>> that people who are stopped for "identical reasons" if you could hold all
>>>> else constant (e.g., speeding) end up being treated *differently* on
>>>> the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, or any # of other social factors, to
>>>> say nothing of human psychology, that might affect how transactions &
>>>> interactions unfold. Where's all that data? Nowhere. And yet, do a thought
>>>> experiment with me. Imagine if you were to test all the police in terms of
>>>> their propensities for implicit bias or even overt manifestations of
>>>> racism? What if you did comprehensive personality profiles? What would you
>>>> find? And, then take that a step further. Despite the training they receive
>>>> (often only 12 weeks or less), how might they end up interacting with
>>>> "random" samples of people from the general public? What do you think you
>>>> *might* find if you were to really study these issues in-depth and
>>>> scientifically? Do you think you might see various forms of differential
>>>> treatment, especially if "unfiltered" (although, apparently in the case of
>>>> some officers like Derek Chauvin, it really doesn't even matter if the
>>>> camera is rolling)? What would be the distribution in terms of the general
>>>> police force, even if 90% were totally enlightened, fair-minded individuals
>>>> committed to the highest aspirations of the "protect and serve" philosophy
>>>> (btw, the evidence on who the police "are" from social scientific research
>>>> paints a vastly different picture)? So, if "only" 10% act on their biases,
>>>> what effect would that have & who would disproportionately be targeted? And
>>>> so on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And so the problems are far more deep-seated. If you want certain
>>>> groups to be targeted, then increase police presence & see what happens.
>>>> For example, what happens to "peaceful protesters" if there are more police
>>>> around to "watch"? Forget the rioting and looting - how many arrests of
>>>> looters have been caught on tape (and even then there are other issues to
>>>> consider)? How many peaceful protesters have been beaten, or tear-gassed,
>>>> or abused in one way or another?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If there's a call to "de-fund" the police, does that mean no policing
>>>> services? Or does that mean shifting some of the funding to investments in
>>>> other types of services, education, health, infrastructure, opportunities,
>>>> and investments in "poor" communities? Even among self-identified
>>>> "liberals," how many want to live among and work with the poorest of the
>>>> poor, be the awesome teachers I had in Fairfax County in the 1970s (white,
>>>> privileged, wealthy, and largely segregated outside of TC Williams!) for
>>>> young people "at risk" in those communities, move their families & live
>>>> among & befriend those in the poorest neighbourhoods, and invest in small
>>>> businesses or have their larger corporations relocate in those communities
>>>> to create work incentives? And who's providing the health and social
>>>> services, working with those suffering from substance abuse problems, or
>>>> coaching the kids in sports and extra-curricular activities? No, none of
>>>> THAT stuff can really be "legislated" and you certainly cannot force people
>>>> to live in more integrated or diverse 'hoods, but at least recognize that
>>>> much of the funding and tax relief directly benefits the wealthy (as Billie
>>>> Eilish might sing, "Duh") and those in positions of power, including the
>>>> police & the military. Far more money is spent on the U.S. military (yes,
>>>> that's *directly* relevant to this discussion) and to U.S. policing
>>>> than to all other publicly-funded health and human services. Not even
>>>> close, especially if you set aside social security (which no one seems to
>>>> define as "socialism" in the U.S., but I digress...) But what's the
>>>> narrative being advanced in halls of power and certainly by the Trumpian
>>>> leadership on the right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I cannot even begin to do justice to the thousands of scientific
>>>> research studies that demonstrate the full range of biases and inequalities
>>>> built into the systems of advanced-industrial democracies in general, to
>>>> say nothing of what's happening in the most extremely polarized &
>>>> militarized system on the face of the planet:  the U.S. military-industrial
>>>> complex, who funding exceeds the next 10 countries in the world combined.
>>>> I'm sorry, but I have spent my life trying to understand human behavior
>>>> and, specifically crime, violence, and social control - and none of that
>>>> (or the best of the work by the top leaders and pioneers in the field) gets
>>>> noticed, acknowledged, or built into most of the discussions. Speaking only
>>>> for myself, I think I may have reached the end of my career in even trying
>>>> to have intelligent conversations about any of this stuff any longer. I'm
>>>> sure I sound like a raving idiot. I just wish people could see at least
>>>> *some* of the arguments and evidence as to how far to the right the
>>>> discourse & justifications have shifted to the right. The one small kernel
>>>> of hope? Some white protesters getting beaten again randomly & for no
>>>> reason being detained are starting to ask, "Hey, I can't believe I'm being
>>>> attacked for simply 'living my life' and 'being here'." No shit. That's
>>>> what African-Americans and Indigenous peoples and racialized minorities
>>>> have been saying for centuries. Duh.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or, as a right-wing nutcase brother of mine once complained, "I can't
>>>> believe a group of young black kids stopped & yelled at me 'hey Honky'
>>>> while I was playing tennis in LA." He was so angry that these youngsters
>>>> would throw that epithet in his direction, unprovoked & without knowing
>>>> him. I thought: Great, a teachable moment. I asked him to reflect on how
>>>> angry he got that this happened to him exactly once and as a successful,
>>>> wealthy, 40-something lawyer w/ a multi-million dollar home. And could he
>>>> imagine how his African-American counterpart might feel who experienced
>>>> this type of prejudice, bias, and discrimination regularly from the time of
>>>> being a child right on up throughout one's life. No, not *everyone* would
>>>> act that way toward the African-American walking among them. MOST people
>>>> would be kind and treat each person fairly and with respect. But, that
>>>> said, how many in the population would treat the racialized minority or the
>>>> "other" differently, negatively, and/or with hostility? And how many times
>>>> would that have happened over the many years? And what impact would that
>>>> have on one's self-esteem, confidence, or general feeling of well-being?
>>>> And yet look at what impact, my dear brother, just ONE incident had upon
>>>> your mental health and well-being as a successful grown man. He still
>>>> doesn't get it, and never will.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So much more to say, but I'll move along as an "old guy" now. But, in
>>>> contrast to a lot of others in my generation, I have a different sign on my
>>>> lawn. It's not "get off my lawn", but rather "all are welcome - come and
>>>> hang out on my lawn & I'll even get you a drink if you're thirsty..." Best,
>>>> -joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Joseph H. Michalski
>>>>
>>>> King’s University College at Western University
>>>>
>>>> 266 Epworth Avenue, DL-201
>>>>
>>>> London, Ontario, Canada  N6A 2M3
>>>>
>>>> Tel: (519) 433-3491
>>>>
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> ______________________
>>>>
>>>> *e**i*π + 1 = 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Henriques, Gregg -
>>>> henriqgx <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:47 AM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *Subject:* Two articles on Policing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear TOK List,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   For folks who are interested in understanding the divergent
>>>> “justification systems” that are operating about the state of policing in
>>>> this country, I recommend the following articles:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heather MacDonald is a conservative scholar who has long argued that
>>>> the fundamental progressive narrative about brutal cops as an aggregate is
>>>> misguided. This is a transcript of her testimony to congress yesterday:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.city-2Djournal.org_repudiate-2Dthe-2Danti-2Dpolice-2Dnarrative&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XCyS8sUUNvzWX0rjg8s57yN6SdBKAfTyAQX6iclIkuI&s=5mcJ-CAJOaVUrJ8poNyG0u02_J9-YLzEv5kp7cFQxLg&e= 
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.city-2Djournal.org_repudiate-2Dthe-2Danti-2Dpolice-2Dnarrative&d=DwMF-w&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=h6kB7iQCbvdCGiWf2dX8DsIsU4IDPEmOLWq59xpgmxA&s=2s_tONfe_Ppbxvo1_VFMw_2AtomzpYiwXjJUPwpWx2E&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nicholas Kristof is a liberal NY Times columnist who has long advocated
>>>> for social justice causes. This is his call for how to effectively think
>>>> about “defunding the police”:
>>>>
>>>>
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