Steve:
Thanks that's very helpful and instructive . . . !!
Nietzsche was supposed to become a Lutheran minister, like his father
and grandfather before him. However, it seems that instead he took
some "organic" LSD as a student in Leipzig and it sparked some
different ideas -- like "God is dead" &c. Yes, he was ahead of his
times.
Lacking Christianity (or, more accurately, the *printed* Lutheran
Bible) as authority, he had no choice but to fall back on his own
experiences. Yes, there were even more drugs involved (cannabis,
opium, you name it.) Few at the time even noticed what he wrote.
Then he went "crazy."
He took, if you will, the ultimate "inner trip" and, while that might
appear to be something that can be "universalized" into a "new global
age" (as many have tried, notably Tim Leary, who I actually knew), it
still lacks anything worth believing in (which is why Leary was such
an amoral SOB.) When John Lilly took that trip he met the
space-aliens who control life on earth through "coincidence." Earth
Coincidence Control Office (ECCO) he called it.
"Freedom for" is explained in great detail by Christianity, starting
with Original Sin in Genesis. But without that "frame," or something
adequate to replace it, freedom often turns into "freedom from" (take
your pick) -- thus my question to Frank (and his Jesuit training.)
Those who invented "modern" science -- as, for instance, those at the
Royal Society of London in 1660 -- were mostly convinced that the 2nd
Coming was immanent (as had been those like Cromwell who preceded them
in the "English Civil War.") They thought that Christ would be
showing up any day now (as reflected in one of few "direct" holdovers
from that period, today's "Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day
Saints.")
Many down through the following centuries have also been trying to use
science to help them "immanentize the eschaton" (as Eric Voegelin put
it.) When that happens, all doubts would be removed. Alas, they seem
to mostly mess things up instead.
Better living through chemistry (and all that) . . . <g>
Mark
Quoting Steven Quackenbush <[log in to unmask]>:
> Mark writes:
>
>
> - *"...freedom has many descriptions. Typically they fall into the
> "freedom from" (or "negative freedom") and "freedom to" (or "positive
> freedom.")"*
>
> This important distinction between "freedom *from*" and "freedom *to*" (or
> "freedom *for*") effectively mirrors the tensions implicit in discussions
> regarding unified theory.
>
> Succinctly:
>
> - Science has the power to grant us freedom *from* (e.g., global
> warming, kidney failure, Alzheimer's disease, irrational heuristics).
> - But what does science grant us the freedom *for*?
> - The "for" (or the "to") of freedom may be outlined as we continue to
> reflect upon the "fifth joint point":
> - As Gregg writes in *A New Unified Theory of Psychology:* "What
> kinds of creatures are we? Why do we do what we do? *Where are we
> headed? What should we be doing?*....I want to suggest here that our
> future destiny is tied to the kind of justification systems we
> build...I
> submit that our transcendental purpose is the construction of a new
> global system of justification that effectively merges wisdom
> with science
> and technology in a way that fosters the emergence of a new
> global age."
> (p. 247, emphasis added).
> - I agree, but would add that any such global system of justification
> must effectively justify* freedom itself* (not as an abstraction, but
> as embodied in every concrete person).
>
> I've never been especially fond of Nietzsche, but I'm reminded here of his
> "three metamophorses of the spirit", as narrated by Zarathustra:
>
>
> - *Stage 0 -- Spiritual innocence*. [This phrase is not used by
> Zarathustra (Nietzsche), but I presume there is an original,
> innocent state
> of being prior to the first transformation.]
> - *Transformation #1:* "How the spirit becomes a camel..."
> - *Stage 1 -- The camel: *The spirit that would "bear much"
> - e.g., "stepping into filthy waters when they are the waters or truth";
> "loving those who despise us", "climbing high mountains to tempt the
> tempter" [I don't quite get this one!]
> - *Transformation #2:* "...the camel, a lion..."
> - *Stage 2 *-- *The lion:* the spirit "who would conquer his freedom and
> be master of his own fate".
> - "Here he seeks out his last master: he wants to fight him and his
> last god; for the ultimate victory he wants to fight with the
> great dragon."
> - "Who is the great dragon whom the spirit will no longer call
> lord or god? 'Thou shalt' is the name of the great dragon.
> But the spirit
> of the lion says, 'I will'"
> - "Why is there a need in the spirit for the lion? Why is not the
> beast of burden, which renounces and is reverent, enough?"
> - "The creation of freedom for oneself and a sacred 'No' even
> to duty -- doer that, my brothers, the lion is needed."
> - *Transformation #3:* "...and the lion, finally, a child"
> - *Stage 3 *--* The child:* ?????????????????
> - "What can the child do that even the lion could not do? Why must
> the preying lion still become a child?"
> - "To create new values -- that even the lion cannot do"
> - "The child is innocence and forgetting, a new beginning, a game,
> a self-propelled wheel, a first movement, a sacred 'Yes.'"
>
>
> Speculating freely:
>
>
> - *Stage 1: The Camel* = The typical (hard working) grad student; The
> established researcher engaged in "normal science" (as Kuhn defines the
> term); the typical "positive psychologist" (who is ultimately
> submissive to
> established values)
> - *Stage 2: The Lion* = Newfound respect for the problem of value
> (including the perennial "is-ough" problem); the need to break away from
> old paradigms; revolutionary science (as Kuhn defines the term).
> - *Stage 3: The Child* = The fifth joint point [????]; resolution of the
> "is-ough" problem [?????]
>
> For those interested in Nietzsche's "metamorphoses of the spirit", I invite
> you to consider:
>
> - Nietzsche's original account:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ebooks.adelaide.edu.au_n_nietzsche_friedrich_n67a_chapter1.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=1Egyv7qjcGHkomOD8_jTzjOwBcWnEoqnP2a1hhbAl7s&s=-9oaNAGnEyUwpC6l4nCvlNJA1gdNQAEuXU0xuMrBBXk&e=
> - Note that this (very brief) excerpt is from a different translation
> of Nietzsche's text than the one I used above [Walter Kaufmann]
> - A very interesting blog post that considers Nietzsche's metamorphoses
> as a general theory of human development.
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.updevelopment.org_3-2Dmetamorphoses-2Dnietzsches-2Dmap-2Dhuman-2Dgrowth_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=1Egyv7qjcGHkomOD8_jTzjOwBcWnEoqnP2a1hhbAl7s&s=lgzGW16XknxXZsJwHYvJUqyHCJvFJeFgNCWjNRwWziY&e=
>
> ~ Steve Q.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Mark Stahlman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> frank:
>>
>> Looking forward to others thoughts and suggestions, especially about
>>> "meta-justification" (for me: freedom)
>>>
>>
>> As someone who attended Jesuit high-school, undergraduate and graduate
>> school (and now works at another Jesuit college), I suspect that you know a
>> few things about "freedom" . . . <g>
>>
>> As you know, freedom has many descriptions. Typically they fall into the
>> "freedom from" (or "negative freedom") and "freedom to" (or "positive
>> freedom.") Which one (or both) are you talking about . . . ??
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> P.S. In all your trips to Firenze, I suspect that you've toured the
>> "Galileo Museum." It was originally the "History of Science Museum" and,
>> as it turns out, my father helped to design it. It's one of my favorite
>> places and I've even got a poster from the 1977 "Disegni de Fabriche
>> Brunelleschaine" exhibit at the Uffizi in my loft.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ama
>> zon.com_Disegni-2Dfabbriche-2Dbrunelleschiane-2DGabinetto-
>> 2DCataloghi_dp_B00V28GKNK&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4
>> uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgj
>> O2gOz4-A&m=bpDZjLV0oFkZA2Y_6IhV6M9l8kFK2YPdD8igTLMRAvU&s=TvQ
>> jMW_sjoLzY8dKXjNxY1yufb9aDCbrvzI_wjz63yY&e=
>>
>> P.P.S. As you also know, some consider Dante to have been an "occultist"
>> who was related to the Cathars and their notions of "perfection." His
>> references to the "White Rose" are sometimes cited in that regard -- also
>> appearing in your book's dedication. Someday I'd be curious about your
>> views on all this, however, probably best kept off-list.
>>
>> P.P.P.S. I'm sure you also know that your "Dante and Derrida: Face to
>> Face" is available for download at various sites. Very interesting, indeed.
>>
>> Quoting Frank Ambrosio <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>> Gregg,
>>>
>>> thanks for the last installment of "what makes us different." It pulls the
>>> pieces together in a clear understandable way, and points the way forward
>>> effectively by focusing us on the fifth nodal point/dimension and the
>>> question, "what has happened to the "person" in the last 50-30k years, and
>>> what is the situation in which we find ourselves - together with the
>>> planet
>>> as a whole, especially with regard to suffering?" In my view, your closing
>>> paragraphs situate us right where we need/want to be:
>>>
>>> "The hope here is that with the right kind of meta-awareness, perhaps we
>>> can build a meta-justification system, one that is conducive to the coming
>>> wave of change. A justification of justifications to use Waldemar’s frame.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That, Frank, is I think what you are getting at with the centrality of
>>> personal identity and dignity. What I am envisioning is a combination of a
>>> system that both integrates knowledge and fosters individual development,
>>> all in a way that “dances” with how the world will change (and change us)
>>> as it continues to accelerate. "
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking forward to others thoughts and suggestions, especially about
>>> "meta-justification" (for me: freedom)
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Francis J. Ambrosio, PhD
>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy
>>> Senior Fellow, Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship
>>> Georgetown University
>>> 202-687-7441
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, to move the conversation along, I developed a quick draft that gets at
>>>> why the JH is a new, central piece of the puzzle, as it frames the shift
>>>> in
>>>> human consciousness and the emergence of large scale justification
>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With this puzzle piece in place, then we are ready to focus on the “fifth
>>>> joint point” and the future of humanity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* tree of knowledge system discussion <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> *On Behalf Of *Frank Ambrosio
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:13 AM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: re easy pieces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gregg,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to be clear: I am all aboard for staying on topic here, the topic of
>>>> which pieces are minimally necessary for an integrated view of what makes
>>>> us different, both from other animals and AI. I am compressing the
>>>> distinct
>>>> question of the logic of that integration, for now, into the question of
>>>> identifying the pieces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Francis J. Ambrosio, PhD
>>>>
>>>> Associate Professor of Philosophy
>>>>
>>>> Senior Fellow, Center for New Designs in Learning and Scholarship
>>>>
>>>> Georgetown University
>>>>
>>>> 202-687-7441
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 3:52 PM Henriques, Gregg - henriqgx <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark and Frank,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the concept of what constitutes a mental disorder is a
>>>> fascinating
>>>> and important question (although I hope we stay on the topic of human
>>>> difference—perhaps this can be an asterisk for future exporation?). It
>>>> was the focus of one of my first theory papers
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
>>>> gregghenriques.com_uploads_2_4_3_6_24368778_finalhd1.pdf&d=
>>>> DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1I
>>>> XYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=k4htm14sO0GrRKScsHw
>>>> wHqJTeVTAkHCqFXa9yVlbR48&s=gKqegUk2vnzt0-Gh7YGEY85qgtvHKy
>>>> tPDzXf_W_IvHs&e=>,
>>>> published prior to my unified theory work in 2002. The justification of
>>>> mental disorder and disease is crucial to our identity. Szasz said some
>>>> very important things. He also “over shot” in that, yes, people actually
>>>> do
>>>> go crazy. Their perceptual-affect systems breakdown and they hallucinate
>>>> and their justification systems go haywire and they form delusions. A
>>>> profound thought disorder is as evident of a broken mind as a heart
>>>> attack.
>>>> If someone grabbed their chest, screamed in pain and died, we would say
>>>> something was wrong with them, even if we found no lesions in their
>>>> heart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All that said, the majority of what we call mental illnesses, the
>>>> neurotic
>>>> conditions, are by and large problems in living and coping that lead to
>>>> clinically significant levels of distress. They are mental-behavioral
>>>> problems, not diseases in the traditional medicine sense. Some blogs on
>>>> this issue:
>>>>
>>>> What is a Mental Disorder?
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__my.
>>>> psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201201_
>>>> what-2Dis-2Dmental-2Ddisorder&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vC
>>>> I4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYB
>>>> gjO2gOz4-A&m=k4htm14sO0GrRKScsHwwHqJTeVTAkHCqFXa9yVlbR48&s=
>>>> lowwMA9FHJ_VRGReIVo1WulxFkSSDugk5aURlPhwUg0&e=>
>>>> Five Broad Models of Mental Illness
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__my.
>>>> psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201206_
>>>> five-2Dbroad-2Dmodels-2Dmental-2Dillness-2D1&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbW
>>>> YnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-
>>>> UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=k4htm14sO0GrRKScsHwwHqJTeVTAkH
>>>> CqFXa9yVlbR48&s=Y7-TiYgGDBPAaJUiJH25gRplgdKF5EVf8Wxo3ZYVlZI&e=>
>>>> Mental Disorders Vs Diseases
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__my.
>>>> psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201305_
>>>> mental-2Ddisorders-2Dvs-2Ddiseases&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpn
>>>> zycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-
>>>> UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=k4htm14sO0GrRKScsHwwHqJTeVTAkH
>>>> CqFXa9yVlbR48&s=X8iIHyVuwaikdtfl8ALHLE7OLl03-x3MEafB9NfiUQQ&e=>
>>>>
>>>> This one is on Szasz:
>>>>
>>>> Is Psychiatry the Science of Lies?
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__my.
>>>> psychologytoday.com_blog_theory-2Dknowledge_201212_is-
>>>> 2Dpsychiatry-2Dthe-2Dscience-2Dlies&d=DwMFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycB
>>>> Cgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-
>>>> UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=k4htm14sO0GrRKScsHwwHqJTeVTAkH
>>>> CqFXa9yVlbR48&s=3NBiyjG_A-eppOGVPQiCyfE0nreUhtpsim6LAwCyYbM&e=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Gregg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tree of knowledge system discussion <[log in to unmask]
>>>> u>
>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Stahlman
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 8:30 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: easy pieces
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Very interesting -- thanks . . . !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you know, Ernest Becker was "mentored" by Thomas Szasz, an important
>>>> figure in the "anti-psychiatry" movement of the 1960s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just as we are now in another "counter-culture," Szasz was in the middle
>>>> of his (along with some of the rest of us.) The last time this happened,
>>>> RADIO psychology -- particularly the medical version -- came
>>>>
>>>> under attack by the *new* techno-paradigm TELEVISION types.
>>>>
>>>> Psychiatry lost.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki
>>>> pedia.org_wiki_Thomas-5FSzasz&d=DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vC
>>>> I4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1IXYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYB
>>>> gjO2gOz4-A&m=XAkYRpRyVB6UU9pFYHb8b9G4xQy0T81UTArZU-8mBDE&s=y
>>>> 5HRC2ZOx6lt3U-JNJCXfztJ-zUX7azmsaSvzsK4thE&e
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His 1961 "The Myth of Mental Illness" and 1970 "The Manufacture of
>>>>
>>>> Madness" accompanied Michel Foucault's 1961 "History of Madness" &c.
>>>>
>>>> One of the components which fed all this was the use of LSD -- beginning
>>>> and becoming widespread in psychotherapy in the 1950s and then spread by
>>>> the anti-psychiatrists in the 1960s, including after it became illegal --
>>>> which was viewed by some as "mimicking" psychosis, while others saw it as
>>>> opening the "Doors of Perception." How's that for "counter" views
>>>> (reminding us of the recent "Entropic Brain" post by Gregg) . . . !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wikipedia notes --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Szasz argued throughout his career that mental illness is a metaphor for
>>>> human problems in living, and that mental illnesses are not "illnesses"
>>>> in
>>>> the sense that physical illnesses are; and that except for a few
>>>> identifiable brain diseases, there are "neither biological or chemical
>>>> tests nor biopsy or necropsy findings for verifying DSM diagnoses."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Szasz maintained throughout his career that he was not anti-psychiatry
>>>> but was rather anti-coercive psychiatry. He was a staunch opponent of
>>>> civil
>>>> commitment and involuntary psychiatric treatment but believed in, and
>>>> practiced, psychiatry and psychotherapy between consenting adults."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the closing of mental institutions was one of the results. As are
>>>> at
>>>> least some aspects of the increase in "mass killings" &c.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the summer of 1967 (aka "The Summer of Love," when I was in
>>>> Haight-Ashbury looking for some LSD), the Tavistock Institute held a
>>>> conference at what was probably the peak of this movement -- called the
>>>> "Dialectics of Liberation Congress" (and published under the title "To
>>>> Free
>>>> a Generation") -- organized by David Cooper, their resident
>>>> "anti-psychiatrist" (and a colleague of R.D. Laing, widely nominated to
>>>> take over for Tim Leary, also a psychologist, as the LSD "guru.")
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wiki
>>>> pedia.org_wiki_Dialectics-5Fof-5FLiberation-5FCongress&d=
>>>> DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1I
>>>> XYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XAkYRpRyVB6UU9pFYHb
>>>> 8b9G4xQy0T81UTArZU-8mBDE&s=4PDB5jFs232nZnFGRrkUQ4nEyaGOmGie8A_C7rRTwA0&e
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ama
>>>> zon.com_Free-2DGeneration-2DDavid-2DCooper_dp_B000V2FMZA&d=
>>>> DwIDaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=HPo1I
>>>> XYDhKClogP-UOpybo6Cfxxz-jIYBgjO2gOz4-A&m=XAkYRpRyVB6UU9pFYHb
>>>> 8b9G4xQy0T81UTArZU-8mBDE&s=Iz7r3gjr1MToZMRqRZJIMlml-eFd3p1pdOuxh3zghrc&e
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Emergent cosmic reality" and "cosmic information exchange dynamism"
>>>>
>>>> would likely have been phrases that would have been right at home there .
>>>> . . <g>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
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