If your kids' attachments are so huge that they don't fit it in a standard
box, then they and the robot not likely to fit in Base!  Have your kids
read "D11 - Safety" regarding the new definitions of "in" and  "R12 -
Launching", especially regarding extending out of Base.  The associated
issues include "D10 - Penalties",  "R10 - Hands Off", "R13 - Interupting".



On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> These are good questions, because the rules can change each year.
>
> We've asked all the tournament directors to try to provide a small table
> or chair next to the field to help teams to store their equipment.
>
> Your tournament directors will also be contacting you if there are any
> restrictions on access or space to the competition area.
>
> Let's take a look at the rules:
>
>    1.
>
>    R11 – Workspace and Storage
>    -
>
>       ●  ON THE FIELD: Handling and storage of allowable things may
>       extend out of Safety, into adjacent irrelevant Field space only if specific
>       actions and locations are completely non-strategic.
>       -
>
>       ●  OFF THE FIELD: Equipment and Models are not allowed on the
>       floor.
>
> This tells your team three things:
> 1)  it's okay if stuff that you aren't using pokes out of Safety, as long
> as you aren't using it for strategic purposes, including interfering with
> the autonomous robot.
>
> 2)  it's okay to store stuff off the field
>
> 3)  it's never okay to put stuff on the floor.
>
>
> There are also a whole bunch of things that it doesn't say (and by GP2,
> bullet 5, that allows you a lot of flexibility.)
>
> a)  it doesn't say that you cannot bring your own box (or two or three),
> or prohibit/require certain types of boxes
> b)  it doesn't say that you cannot bring a little table of your own (if
> there is room)
> c)  it doesn't say that other team members cannot hold stuff
>
> <notes for rules mavens:
> i) boxes and tables are not used for Mission-related activity, in the
> narrow sense of trying to accomplish a Mission on the Field, so by D03,
> they aren't Equipment, and so R01 doesn't apply to them.
> ii)  R10 only applies to objects on the Field, and R11 explicitly says
> that the team can handle things in Storage.
> end notes>
>
>
>   It also could be a good time to review the judging rubrics with your
> team, and ask them, "What will you say if you are asked about xyz?"  For
> example, in Robot Design, under the Mechanical Efficiency skill area, when
> I am a judge, I will be looking to see and hear described an appropriate
> balance between quantity and specialization of attachments to see whether
> the team is trying to be both efficient and effective in accomplishing
> their goals.
>
> Steve Scherr
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Amy [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks...I am just wondering how teams manage whose frames or attachments
>> won't fit in that one box or on the table/chair provided?  Do you bring
>> multiple boxes and just set the on the floor next to the table? I'm just
>> trying to envision how they're going to manage this all.
>>
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