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Intent does not matter. Only the final state. So if at the end it does meet cell identification then it counts. 

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On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Eric, I think you are correct in that there is no partial scoring.  However, If a bot is trying to destroy the cells (all facing north) and time runs out and let's say they had all of the cells to destroy and at the end of the match some of them were facing north and the rest were facing up, I think the team would get the points for identifying the bad cells, even though they tried to destroy them all and were not completely successful on the destruction attempt.  Does this make sense?
>  
> Of course, in the end, the answer will come from bigger minds than mine.
>  
> Lloyd
> 
> 
> Sep 28, 2010 08:51:03 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >According to the rules there is no partial credit for identification.
> >So all black cells need to face north and or up. No other
> >configurations are allowed.
> >
> >This is somewhat inplied in a recent ruling
> >7 – RANDOMIZATION
> >The referee will randomize the model after every opportunity you had
> >to tell your robot the model’s status, unless the robot has put the
> >model into one of the two score-worthy conditions. So if your robot
> >tries the mission and fails, the referee will continue to randomize
> >it, yes, giving you another chance.
> >
> >(note two scoring positions)
> >
> >
> >From the mission description
> >
> >---Show bad-cell identification by clicking cells such that some
> >blacks face up, and the rest face North.
> >IDENTIFICATION = 20 Points ---OR---
> >---Show bad-cell destruction by clicking cells such that 5 blacks face
> >North. DESTRUCTION = 25 Points
> >
> >Positions must be fully clicked in either case.
> >
> >
> >Eric
> >
> >On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> Shom,
> >>
> >> That's a great question and I do not know the answer off the top of 
> >my
> >> head.  Being young, our team has decided to not try the bad cell mission 
> >so
> >> I have not paid any attention.  My gut feel would be that you would 
> >still
> >> get the points because in order to destroy you have to be able to identify
> >> first.  However, I don't know.  I'm hoping somebody on 
> >the listserv can
> >> answer and if they can't, chek in the FLL forums and/or send an email 
> >to
> >> Scott to see what the official ruling would be.
> >>
> >> Have you checked the rules and game rulings:
> >> 
> >target="_blank">http://firstlegoleague.org/media/twocol.aspx?id=247.  Also, a quick check of
> >> the mission shows a picture that would indicate what a "identify"
> >> score setup should look like at the end of the match.  Take 
> >a look and see
> >> what you think.  Also, make sure to check elsewhere (listserv, forums, 
> >Scott
> >> Evans, game rullings) to get an official answer.
> >>
> >> Sorry I could not be of more help.
> >>
> >> Lloyd O'Hara
> >> Coach, Crestwood Monarchs
> >>
> >>
> >> Sep 28, 2010 08:08:54 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hey Lloyd,
> >>>
> >>>I've also got a question.
> >>>
> >>>I am wondering about the bad cell mission.  What if time runs out 
> >after
> >>> identification
> >>>is complete and destruction is only 50% complete?  Does that mean 
> >you still
> >>> get
> >>>the identification points or no points because at the point time ran
> >>> out-the cells
> >>>are in neither correct position (for identification or destruction)?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Shom
> >>>
> >>>
> >> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
> >> They can be taken one at a time or both at the same time.  It does 
> >not
> >> matter,
> >>>as long as they are in the patient area when time runs out.
> >>
> >> Lloyd O'Hara
> >> Coach, Crestwood Monarchs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Sep 28, 2010 07:49:50 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> One of my students brought up an interesting question. One of the mission 
> >is
> >>>
> >>>>to take both the nurse and bio-engineer to the patient area - so 
> >for full
> >>>points
> >>>>both should be in the patient area.
> >>
> >> The question was - can they be taken one by one - or do they need to be
> >> taken
> >>>
> >>>>both together at the same time. Does it matter - since at the end 
> >of the
> >>>2.5 minutes
> >>>>if both are in the patient area - the team would get full points 
> >for that
> >>>mission.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Viquar
> >> FLL - Team Avatar Robotics!
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