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Thank you for your insight. I appreciate your advice.  I thought I was reading the conditions correctly in the update, but wanted to make sure I wasn't  reading anything into them.   

Thanks again!

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> On Oct 21, 2015, at 3:36 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Note for all teams:  If you haven't seen the Robot Game updates from 15 October 2015 yet, go to the Challenge page at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.firstlegoleague.org_challenge_2015trashtrek&d=BQIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=j02wH63vvL-8Od2CUZbglb8wdeMiiFueS3JFUeLdm-Y&s=PTcBexL7-WfAmZvofoqiGS9tKDBs9DOCzOtxrcklO6s&e=  and right-click (or the equivalent) to download the Challenge Updates file from the link.
> Many different browsers will only display the first two pages instead of all 4.
> 
> As noted in the Challenge Updates from 15 October, #14, it is possible to get 110 points from the Transport Mission.
> "The Transport Mission max score is indeed 110. This is the meaning you were supposed to take from “score one or both.” Think it
> through, and use high caution when throwing around the word “impossible” - especially in FIRST LEGO League."
> 
> As seen in the mission, to score all of the possible 110 points, the referee has to see both of the following at the end of the match:
> (1) The Truck supports all of the Yellow Bin’s weight.
> (2) The Yellow Bin is completely east of the Truck’s Guide.
> 
> How the team makes that happen isn't important (as long as they obey the game Rules.)
> 
> Specific answers to Laurie's questions:
> Question:  Does this mean to score all of the possible 110 points the bin still has to be on the truck and the part of the truck that contains the bin or the entire truck must be completely east of the guide? 
> Answer:  Yes, the bin has to be supported by the Truck.  No, the position of the Truck isn't what the ref looks at, it's the position of the Bin.  If the Truck is supporting the entire weight of the Yellow Bin, and the Yellow Bin is completely east of the guide, then it doesn't matter is some part of the Truck is not east of the guide.
> 
> Question:  In order to do this the truck must get over the stopper at the end of the rail without the bin coming off the truck?  
> Answer:  How the team tries to accomplish the end result is up to them.  "Must" is a very strong word.  Neither the Rules nor the Missions state that "the Truck must get over the stopper without the Bin falling off", so that isn't necessarily important
> 
> Question:  If I am reading this correctly, the team must find a way to get the bin completely away, or not in contact through the truck, the guide at all to be considered east of the truck guide?
> Answer:  No, the Yellow Bin is allowed to be in contact with the Truck and still be east of the guide.  
> If this were a question about strategy to accomplish the mission, then that would be for the team to discuss among themselves, and not for this forum.
> 
> Steve Scherr
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Laura Oder <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>  Hello,
>> 
>> I have a question about a different mission.  In the transport mission the rules state: 
>> 
>> Basic Mission Description: Load the all-Yellow Material Bin onto the Truck to be transported east/unloaded.● Specific physical requirement, visible at the end of the match (score one or both):• Value: 50 The Truck supports all of the Yellow Bin’s weight.• Value: 60 The Yellow Bin is completely east of the Truck’s Guide.
>> 
>> Does this mean to score all of the possible 110 points the bin still has to be on the truck and the part of the truck that contains the bin or the entire truck must be completely east of the guide?  In order to do this the truck must get over the stopper at the end of the rail without the bin coming off the truck?  If I am reading this correctly, the team must find a way to get the bin completely away, or not in contact through the truck, the guide at all to be considered east of the truck guide?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance for the insight.
>> Laurie
> 
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