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VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
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VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 22 Oct 2016 22:08:07 -0400
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[Warning:  this post is mostly wonky referee talk]

In my personal opinion, I like allowing waiting team members to hold
attachments.

Nevertheless, when using GP2, it is important to review all details.

R12 Storage very clearly says "must stay in view of the Ref," which might
or might not be true for non-Technicians holding Equipment.

We advocates of allowing team members to hold Equipment also look at the
words "on a stand" to see if that can be interpreted as being an example
rather than a requirement.

So the bottom line is that your team can practice with having
non-Technicians holding Equipment, but you should be prepared to use
everything off a stand, if required.

For what it's worth, if your team is at one of my tournaments, I will be
lenient on teams holding their own Equipment, but I will require all
Mission Models to stay near the table and Technicians.  If people take
issue with that distinction, then I'll require everything in Storage to be
under the control of the Technicians.

[I've talked about this at even more length in discussions with other
Referees, which shows that it's a tricky interpretation.]


One important takeaway from this for your team, is that your team needs to
read and understand the Rules, Missions, and other documents.  If you
cannot point to words on the page to support a request, then you usually
won't get what you are asking for.

Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor


On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Todd J Lennox <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> This is one that seems to fall under GP2 "if a detail isn't mentioned,
> then it does not matter."  I can find no reference that says all parts of
> the robot must be in possession of the Technicians (the 2 people currently
> at the table) or stored in a particular location.  Since it is silent on
> these two issues robot pieces can be stored anywhere as far as I can tell
> including in other team members hands.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd Lennox
> Coach
> Think Tank 2016 (AA)
> Capital Girls 2015 (TT), 2014 (WC)
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Sammons, John <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>
> QUESTION
>
> Are team members allowed to handle attachments as they wait a turn at the
> table or do these items have to be in the base or off-field storage? This
> rule has changed back and forth over the years.
>
>
> "We know our coaches and mentors don't have all the answers; we learn
> together."
>
> John
>
>

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