I would also like to add – that the challenge video clarifies this … saying that different types of animals need different food groups and each color represent a food group. There are 4 circles on the mat representing the different animal areas and the challenge intent is therefore to distribute the 4 colors (in pairs of each) to the 4 circles for maximum points. Mixing the color pieces in any one circle (animal feeding area) defeats the purpose.
Lastly, I must add that a lot of questions are clarified if attention is paid to the challenge video and the documents and viewed them collectively. Maybe the coaches should view the video again.
From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of VA-DC Referee Advisor
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] M04 Feeding missing scoring question
The topic of what does "match" mean for M04, Feeding, has come up in some private emails, too.
Since the 8 pieces of Food are essentially indistinguishable from each other except for color, we apply Rule GP2, Interpretation,
"If a word isn’t given a game definition, use its common conversational meaning."
The common conversational meaning of match for the Food pieces is that they are the same color. You can test this by taking a handful of the Food piece models up to people on the street and asking them to tell you which ones match.
Bottom line: For M04, Feeding, pieces of Food are considered to match only if they are the same color.
So, what happens if a team's Robot operates the Refrigerator to dispense all 8 pieces of Food, and the Robot collects all the food and Transports it to a Target Area?
1) The team is congratulated for having excellent robot design, programming, and precision navigation and delivery skills
2) Zero points for M04.
Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Bernie Goltermann <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
One more question on this topic.
Rule: "If multiple pieces of Food are in one area, all must match each other.”
1. How would this scenario be scored?
A. All 8 food items from the refrigerator in one target area.
Matching sets of food pieces all in one target area.
There's nothing in the rule saying that all food pieces must be the same color.
Bernie Goltermann
Coach, Assistant
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Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] M04 Feeding missing scoring question
We will apply this restriction by the area, so a pile of different colored food in one Target Area will not affect the score earned from Food in other Target Areas.
As Todd noted, the Food will be loaded in random order. How do you know that? It says to do that in the Field Setup document
REFRIGERATOR AND FOOD: Refrigerator is loaded with all 8 Food inside, in random order. Door is closed. o
Rule GP5 says that the Field Setup information is just as important as the MIssions.
Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Todd J Lennox <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
My reading is that you score each area separately so 20 points in the scenario you mention.
Based on an error I made in a prior year on a mission want to make sure teams noted that the pieces are placed in the refrigerator in a random order. Don't rely on a picture from the challenge that shows them in a particular order.
Todd Lennox
Coach
Capital Girls 14-15
Think Tank
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> On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Michael DeChaine <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> For the the M04 feeding mission, does the “More" requirement: "If multiple pieces of Food are in one area, all must match each other.” apply to each individual area or the whole field?
>
> For example, if there are:
>
> • Area 1: two red pieces of food, and
> • Area 2: a blue piece of food and a white piece of food,
>
> Does that score:
>
> • 20 total point: 20 points for the two matching foods in area 1 and zero points because Area 2 does not meet the “More" requirement, or
> • Zero total points because of the missing “More” requirement from Area 2 also prevents any points from Area 1?
>
> I’d argue for the 20 total points position, but I could see it going either way. Thanks!
>
> - Michael DeChaine
>
> Rookie coach: RoboTeam 2000
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