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"Aucoin, Bill (ES)" <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:56:43 +0000
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Wendy,

Nice summary. Attached is part of a presentation that I put together. This particular slide helps summarize the same information in a matrix for easier comparison.

As you mention, the biggest differences in the kits are:
*       Color sensor vs. Light Sensor
*       Batteries
o       Included?
o       Rechargeable?
*       Software license
o       None
o       Single Seat
o       "FLL Team License"

Also, this blog, from Northern California, discusses the differences: http://www.norcalfll.org/elgg/pg/blog/jillw/read/3609/which-lego-mindstorms-nxt-kit-to-buy

Thanks,
Bill

From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of W bretton
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:37 PM
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Subject: EXT :Re: [VADCFLL-L] LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT Books ?

Below is information I sent to some friends a while back.  The product number for the Resource set changed & prices went up, so the differences listed below may not be exact,   but generally speaking  FLL Robot set =  Retail kit (8547) + Resource Set (9695) with a few differences...
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The "FLL Robot Set" consists of:
      LEGO(r)  MINDSTORMS(r) Education NXT Base Set Product ID: W979797
      http://www.legoeducation.us/eng/product/lego_mindstorms_education_nxt_base_set/2095
      LEGO(r)  MINDSTORMS(r) Education Resource Set   Product ID: W979695
      http://www.legoeducation.us/eng/product/lego_mindstorms_education_resource_set/2214
      LEGO(r)  MINDSTORMS(r) Education NXT Software
      http://www.legoeducation.us/eng/product/lego_mindstorms_education_nxt_software_2_1/2240
      (Purchasing thru FLL provides the FLL Team license )


The retail kit (8547), which you find on the web for $250-$270, is essentially the NXT Base Set above with just a few differences as follows:
      Retail kit does not come with the rechargeable battery.
      Retail kit has color sensor.  The Education set has just plain light sensors.
      Retail kit comes with the software, but not the license for loading it on many computers as you would need in a school setting.
      I think the retail kit did not have the sound sensor either???   I could be wrong.
      I think the retail kit has fewer tire choices.
      The retail kit does not have the red and blue plastic balls either (minor difference)

The retail set (8547)   +   the Education Resource Set above (9648) (~$80) is a close equivalent to the "FLL robot set" with differences listed above.

Hope this helps.

-Wendy Bretton




From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rajesh Shah
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT Books ?

I had another rookie team question. We bought the NXT kit from Amazon this summer.

What is difference between this Kit and NXT kit supplied by FLL.  Do we need to buy more parts ?

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Rajesh Shah <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

We are not competing in this years competition.   As you said, we are mostly getting ready for next year.

Yes,we do plan to visit this years event.

Appreciate your inputs.


Rajesh

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:11 PM, B Bergenstock <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Do you mean that you just started your team and are registered for a local tournament?  Because competition is just 2 to 3 weeks away, and that's a pretty tall order. But good luck to you and your team.
        If it were me and I had just started, I would not enter into this year's competition, but hold an after school program starting in January every other week, teaching them programming and then enter next fall's tournament.  Definitely go to this year's event, even as a spectator, because being at the competition teaches you a lot.
     As for books to teach lego to your team,. I highly recommend Educate NXT
http://www.educatenxt.com/
It's the best value for your money and time.  Carnegie Mellon also has an excellent series called Robotic Engineering.  They started a free online class equivalent but I can't seem to find that link right now;  Maybe someone else has that link.
Regards,
Brandy
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Rajesh Shah <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
We are new FLL team recently registered with parents as coach and mentor. We
are all new to LEGO Mindstroms NXT Constructions and Programming.


I was a thinking a good book will be a nice way to get a jump start for our team.
I see a bunch of books available in Amazon.  Any suggestion ?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?
ie=UTF8&keywords=LEGO%20MINDSTORMS%20NXT&tag=nxtprogramsco-
20&index=books&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325#/ref=nb_sb_noss?
url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-
keywords=LEGO+MINDSTORMS+NXT&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ALEGO+MINDST
ORMS+NXT


Thanks for your help.

Rajesh Shah
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