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Ralph,

Thanks!  The type of small, folding table I'm referring to is often called a
TV tray table, with a top surface that's approximately 1 ft by 2 ft.  My
team has used this at tournaments for each of the past three years, and I've
seen other teams do the same.

As far as space is concerned, the small table fits well within the area
designated as near the robot performance table, where only two team members
are allowed at any one time, so there's plenty of room within that area.

If there's any question about this, I'd be happy to share photos I have from
previous tournaments, such as last year, showing my team using our small
table, alongside the robot performance table, with referees watching while
the small table is being used to hold up our plastic bin.

After reading your post, I re-read the rules, and I can find nothing in the
rules to disallow the use of a plastic bin, nor anything to disallow the use
of a small table... please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,
Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: First Lego League Discussion
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ralph Grove
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:18 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] May the team bring a small table to the match?


The bin is a great idea, but I would advise checking with your local
tournament director before bringing your own folding table. The rules
specify what robot parts may be brought to the competition table, but I
don't recall seeing any mention of a portable table. Some tournaments
may not have space for this.

Ralph Grove

KevinHines wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Bringing a small, folding table to the competition's robot performance
table
> is an excellent technique and it's both legal & recommended in FLL.  My
FLL
> team has been doing for this years; I believe I learned this idea at an
FLL
> coach's workshop 3 years ago.
>
> It is also recommended to use a plastic bin to carry the robot at the
> tournament, and to have the team set the bin upon the small folding table
> next to the robot competition table.  We put a row of self-adhesive, felt
> pads all along the four edges of the small table, to decrease the chance
of
> the plastic bin being bumped off of the small table.
>
> Additional pointers: Always have a designated team member carry the robot
in
> the bin, and another designated team member carry & set up the small,
> folding table near the base area next to the big robot performance table.
> Same thing goes for carrying the robot & all props to & from the judging
> sessions; always have a designated person for each role, so that nothing
is
> forgotten.  The designated person for each role can change between robot
> rounds, so that everyone who wants a turn can have a chance to do one of
> these jobs.
>
> The robot itself, plus attachments, etc., can all be stored in the plastic
> bin, on top of the small folding table, until each item is needed, during
> the robot performance rounds.
>
> I hope that all made sense!  :-)
>
> Good Luck,
> Kevin
>
> Kevin Hines
> Coach, Colonial Elementary, Blue Ridge, VA
> [log in to unmask]
> www.RoanokeRobotics.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: First Lego League Discussion
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Michael Blanpied
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [VADCFLL-L] May the team bring a small table to the match?
>
>
> Karen, Phil,
>
> The new Housekeeping rule, that only the two kids at the table may
> hold competition objects, has a significant effect on the match
> logistics for some teams.
>
> Will a team be permitted to bring a small table to the competition
> room? Our team would like to set a small table next to the robot
> table, on which to place attachments and loose mission models during
> the match. I know they're permitted to bring a box, so in effect this
> is asking if that box may have a team-supplied table underneath it.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Mike Blanpied
> Reston, VA
> 2006 Nano People #4809
> 2007 Power Bunnies #1666
> 2008 BLT (Brilliant Lego Team) #5013
>
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Ralph F. Grove, Jr., Ph.D., Associate Professor
James Madison University Department of Computer Science

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