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First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
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I no longer have coaching skin in this game but will be a judge next year
and moving forward at state.

Having a longer season would be great.  The short season is hard on the
coach, the team and everyone.

I don't want to dampen this converstion but there are other considerations
that need to be accounted for. So in the mode of transparency and thinking
through all the issues:

Understand running this tournament is part of a course that Nick teaches
and I would guess moving that class to spring semester may be hard.  I know
from my work at U of Richmond that some classes are taught in the fall
because of specific course sequencing needs.

I'm also guessing that having the tournament late in the semester is
advantageous to the class syllabus.  Even if these are not considerations,
this would probably have to be planned for the 2013 season (so 2013-2014)
because of scheduling dependencies with regional venues. I help coordinate
a 24 team tournament in the Richmond area and we have already booked the
space we need for next fall. Moving these dates can be challenging.

Eric Palmer
Team #7
The Rainbow Cows

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Sean Ward <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  And don't forget the SNOW!  :)
>
>
> Sean Ward
> Coach - The Occoquan Braves
>
> Sean Ward
> 2nd Grade Professional Educator
> Occoquan Elementary School
>
> >>> "Lloyd O'Hara" <[log in to unmask]> 12/5/2011 4:13 PM >>>
> Not that my two cents really matters but.... I like it just the way it is,
> a nice compact space of time.  Conflicts will happen no matter when you
> have the tournament.  It was a great weekend.
>
> Speaking of thanks conflicts, moving it into the winter has a huge impact
> on those of us who, in addition to coaching a FLL team, also help mentor an
> FRC team.
>
> Thanks for listening,
>
> Lloyd O'Hara
> Coach, The Crestwood Monarchs
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* B Bergenstock <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2011 3:26 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] TJ prep factor (faction?)
>
> Everything is a trade off.  By going to the competitions my son made a
> choice to not attend a (somewhat awesome) soccer event his team attended,
> obviously without him.  There is no way to avoid conflicts, but I hear what
> you are saying, Making a trade for this particular group puts your group at
> a loss.  However- it is a numbers game. The fact they had to create an
> exception form might point to how many people were affected by this year's
> tournament date.
>     I say we move it to February!
> Brandy
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Arielle Masters <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> I saw the note about sending private e-mail but there's another side to
>> this:  not all of us are trying to get into TJ and/or we have other time
>> constraints that would be adversely impacted by a date change.
>>
>> Have you asked TJ to change its exam day instead or - easier for all of
>> us except for the people proctoring the TJ exams! - to offer a makeup exam
>> day for those with VADCFLL conflicts?  That would be way better for those
>> of us who plan around more than one activity this time of year.
>>
>> My girls' teams haven't made it to the state competition yet but they'd
>> love to (last year, our older daughter's team was an alternate).  But if
>> you change the competition to a week later and their teams did go on next
>> year, either my girls would have to miss their annual skating performances
>> or miss the LEGO competition :-<  They practice for months for their
>> skating show/program (one does the rink's annual group show; the other does
>> solos and takes private lessons to put her routine together).  As LEGO
>> coaches and parents, that would put us (and them) in a really awkward spot
>> - go to their skating shows (and who would bring the team to the
>> competition?), go to the LEGO competition (and pull them out of their
>> performances, which wouldn't show much commitment at the rink), or send
>> them to their skating shows with the grandparents while we take the other
>> kids out of town (AWKWARD!).  I realize there isn't as much overlap with
>> ice skaters as with TJ preppers, but I wanted to point this out as an
>> example that the TJ folks aren't the only ones out there with other
>> obligations and plans who would be impacted.  At least an exam can be
>> rescheduled; a skating show and a lot of other events can't be.
>>
>> Thanks for keeping more than just the TJ preppers in mind.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Nagesh Chintada wrote:
>>
>> Desh
>> You bring up a great question about TJ exams. Your team's situation
>> regarding TJ Exam is unfortunately not unique. There is a high correlation
>> between teams that compete in FLL and team members that want to go to TJ,
>> both strong in S.T.E.M.
>>
>> My team members who will be in the 8th grade next year are already turned
>> off at the prospect of TJ exam coinciding with FLL Championships, and they
>> are not sure if they want to come back to FLL next year as a team due to
>> the extra pressure this scheduling conflict creates.This is a dilemma many
>> teams face and is not unique to one team, since I know some other kids who
>> had similar issues.
>>
>> *I would like to request VADCFLL to consider moving the competition a
>> week after the TJ Exams are done. I am sure this will help more DivII teams
>> show up and compete more fully.*
>>
>>
>>
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