Thank you Steve! That's helps clarify things for me and see how it can
work! I appreciate it!
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jeff Beima <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> If your kids' attachments are so huge that they don't fit it in a standard
> box, then they and the robot not likely to fit in Base! Have your kids
> read "D11 - Safety" regarding the new definitions of "in" and "R12 -
> Launching", especially regarding extending out of Base. The associated
> issues include "D10 - Penalties", "R10 - Hands Off", "R13 - Interupting".
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
>> These are good questions, because the rules can change each year.
>> We've asked all the tournament directors to try to provide a small table
>> or chair next to the field to help teams to store their equipment.
>> Your tournament directors will also be contacting you if there are any
>> restrictions on access or space to the competition area.
>> Let's take a look at the rules:
>> R11 – Workspace and Storage
>> ● ON THE FIELD: Handling and storage of allowable things may
>> extend out of Safety, into adjacent irrelevant Field space only if specific
>> actions and locations are completely non-strategic.
>> ● OFF THE FIELD: Equipment and Models are not allowed on the
>> This tells your team three things:
>> 1) it's okay if stuff that you aren't using pokes out of Safety, as long
>> as you aren't using it for strategic purposes, including interfering with
>> the autonomous robot.
>> 2) it's okay to store stuff off the field
>> 3) it's never okay to put stuff on the floor.
>> There are also a whole bunch of things that it doesn't say (and by GP2,
>> bullet 5, that allows you a lot of flexibility.)
>> a) it doesn't say that you cannot bring your own box (or two or three),
>> or prohibit/require certain types of boxes
>> b) it doesn't say that you cannot bring a little table of your own (if
>> there is room)
>> c) it doesn't say that other team members cannot hold stuff
>> <notes for rules mavens:
>> i) boxes and tables are not used for Mission-related activity, in the
>> narrow sense of trying to accomplish a Mission on the Field, so by D03,
>> they aren't Equipment, and so R01 doesn't apply to them.
>> ii) R10 only applies to objects on the Field, and R11 explicitly says
>> that the team can handle things in Storage.
>> end notes>
>> It also could be a good time to review the judging rubrics with your
>> team, and ask them, "What will you say if you are asked about xyz?" For
>> example, in Robot Design, under the Mechanical Efficiency skill area, when
>> I am a judge, I will be looking to see and hear described an appropriate
>> balance between quantity and specialization of attachments to see whether
>> the team is trying to be both efficient and effective in accomplishing
>> their goals.
>> Steve Scherr
>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Amy [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Thanks...I am just wondering how teams manage whose frames or
>>> attachments won't fit in that one box or on the table/chair provided? Do
>>> you bring multiple boxes and just set the on the floor next to the table?
>>> I'm just trying to envision how they're going to manage this all.
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