When the robot takes the shot, is it ok if the arm extends beyond the shot line? Meaning, we align the robot and its attachment behind the line before the shot, and then when the arm moves to take the shot, it will extend out. Is that ok?

Thanks,
Monson


> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:48 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> It does not make a difference for the Sports mission whether the ball ends up in the net on the fly, or after a bounce.
> 
> It is important for the Sports mission that the "shot" that puts the ball in the net comes with the robot and its equipment completely behind the shot lines on the mat.  A simple "drop" straight down into the net is not okay.
> 
> Steve Scherr
> VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor
> 
> 
>> On Monday, November 3, 2014, Rosa Rodriguez-Finch <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> A follow-up question to this mission. Can the ball be dropped into the goal or does it have to bounce over the obstacle?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Stephen Scherr wrote:
>>> 
>>> As was described here, the shot would not count for mission points.
>>> 
>>> If the loop is attached to the robot, then it is part of the robot (Rule 12).  The Sports mission requires that all equipment involved with the shot is completely inside the shot lines.  The robot is involved with the shot, so the entire robot must be east/north of the shot lines.  That includes anything attachments joined to it, even if that attachment is not otherwise being used in the shot.
>>> 
>>> Steve Scherr
>>> VA-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Saji Sukumaran <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Not sure if this was answered earlier.
>>>>  
>>>> we have a robot with an attachment in the front that carries a loop (from previous mission). But that attachment is not involved in the throwing of the ball. An attachment behind the robot coupled to a different motor acts as a catapult to release the ball. But the issue is that the ball will fall into the goal only if the front part of the robot that is not involved with the throwing is outside the shot line. Is this allowed?
>>>>  
>>>> As per the rule
>>>> All equipment involved with the shot was completely east/north of the “Shot Lines” while sending the ball to the net. So does this incllude the whole robot with all the attachements, or is it just the robot with the throwing arm?
>>>>  
>>>> I woud really like help getting this clarified.
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  
>>>> Saji Sukumaran
>>>> Cascades Thunderbots
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