Regarding question #2 about the testing the levees challenge: Since
the activation of the test levee is what the scoring is based on, I
would assume that if the robot is sitting on/touching the activation
bar when touched, the mission would be reset under the inactive robot
rule. "Anything done by an inactive robot is reversed by the ref, to
the extent possible, as soon as possible."
Since everything rests on when the mission is actually considered
completed, I have sent the question to the Q & A for an official answer.
As to the new scenario RE the insulation, I agree.
Darlene Pantaleo
Judge Advisor
Maggie Walker
On Nov 13, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Mark FLL Allen wrote:
> See the answers as I understand the rules below. One other scenario:
>
> Robot delivers insulation to scoring area but the robot is touched
> while still in contact. As I understand it there are actually two
> answers;
>
> 1) Robot contacted the object on the field and moved it to the
> scoring area. The object(s) are removed by the ref and are out of
> play.
> 2) Robot previously brought those objects back to base. If so,
> those objects are returned to base.
>
> Does every one agree?
>
> Best regards,
> Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Levy <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 9:53 am
> Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] active touch rule
>
> Maybe some example scenarios would be appropriate -
>
> In the "testing the levees challenge" , robot has moved only
> partially out of base - robot is touched when:
>
> 1) still not yet reached the challenge model (penalty ?) - No
> penalty.
> 2) challenge model has been activated , and other end of robot is
> sitting on the challenge model's activation bar ( penalty ?) No
> Penalty
> 3) challenge model has been activated, robot has moved off
> challenge model's activation bar and 'heading' back ( legal ?) No
> penalty
>
> In other missions where the robot has completely left base
> performed a mission and is returning to base - robot is touched when:
> 4) robot is completely in base but still rolling ( legal ) Yes -
> legal
> 5) robot is partially in base but still rolling ( legal ) Yes - legal
> 6) robot is partially in base but it is bringing back a scoring
> object that is on a section of the robot that has not crossed over
> the home base line. (penalty?) No penalty but the "retrievable" is
> removed from the table by the ref and is out of play.
>
> thanks
> David
>
> Darlene Pantaleo wrote:
> > Normally you can touch the robot while in base, but if you do it
> while > it is performing a mission, then the mission will not
> count. The new > rules allow for performing a mission without
> leaving the base. Sorry > for the confusion.
> > Darlene Pantaleo
> > Judge Advisor
> > Maggie Walker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Michael Blanpied wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Darlene,
> >>
> >>> The effect of the new rules is on what the robot can do while
> in >>> base. It does not effect a team's touching the robot except
> that a >>> mission will not count if done from base (such as the
> "test the >>> levees" challenge).
> >>
> >> I'm afraid I don't understand what that last phrase means. Under
> what >> circumstance would a mission not count? Thanks for clarifying.
> >>
> >> -- >> Cheers,
> >> Mike Blanpied
> >> Reston, VA
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