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VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 8 Nov 2016 19:42:19 -0500
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Yes.  For M11, Prosthesis,

EXACT SCORING REQUIREMENTS/OPTIONS: • Visible at the end of the match:

o The Prosthesis is fitted to the Pet AND not held by the Ref *(and not
completely in the Farm Target}*: 9 Points
Steve Scherr
Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Christina <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Our team has couple of questions related to M11.
>
> 1.  If we bring the pig to the base and attach the prosthesis by hand and
> leave it in the base, would this get us points?
>
> 2. If we bring the pig to the base and attach the prosthesis by hand but
> deliver it to the feeding area instead of farm. Would this get us points?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christina
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]>
> on behalf of VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:51 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Mission – M11 Prosthesis Clarification:
>
> M11, Prosthesis, does not *require* the team Technicians to attach the
> Prosthesis to the Pet in Base, but that is definitely allowable as noted
> earlier.
>
> If a team wanted to design a robot to take the Prosthesis into the Field,
> pick up the Pet and then attach the Prosthesis all under program control,
> it would be allowable, too.  It would also be amazing!
>
> Nevertheless, speaking unofficially, I expect that pretty much every team
> competing in a tournament this year will try to bring the Pet back to
> Base...
>
> Steve Scherr
> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 5:40 PM, David Kane <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> So then the idea for M11, is that the robot retrieves the pet, and gets
>> it into the Base.  The kids then attach the Prosthesis to the pet while it
>> is in the base.  Is that correct?
>>
>> ---- On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 01:05:47 -0400*Stephen Scherr* wrote ----
>>
>> Yes, the team is allowed to attach the Prosthesis to the Pet inside Base.
>> 1)  R10, Handling During the Match, disallows touching anything (except
>> the robot) that is outside of Base.  There is no rule that disallows
>> handling objects that are completely inside Base (or Storage), so that is
>> allowed (GP2).
>>
>> 2)  Normally the team would not be allowed to attach the Prosthesis to
>> the Pet (R11), --but-- Mission M11 requires it.  By rule GP5, Information
>> Superiority, the Missions can override the Rules, so attaching the
>> Prosthesis is allowed.
>>
>> As Todd noted, the Referee may take the Pet/Prosthesis combination out of
>> play because of R14, Interrupting.  If that happens, then the team will not
>> score any points for M11.
>>
>> Steve Scherr
>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Nanda Kottury <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> We are a rookie team.
>>
>> Reading through the mission statement – The prosthesis is fitted to the
>> pet AND not held by the Ref. (Referee).
>> a.      What does this mean ? Does this mean team is allowed to fit the
>> prosthesis at the base and deliver to the farm target ? If so, what is the
>> significance of the statement “not held by the Ref. “
>>
>> Please advise
>>
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