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Those are metric seconds :-)

No, you're right, it's 2.5 minutes.

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From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jason Wu
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:22 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Cardiovascular Exercise Mission - 36 trips?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I am a rookie coach, I thought the FLL match is 2.5 minutes (150 seconds). But Mr. Stave Scherr said this is a 250-second match (below), is this a typo? Or I misread?

Thanks
Jason

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On Sep 25, 2012, at 12:56 PM, VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Also see Robot Game Update 3 at
> http://firstlegoleague.org/challenge/robotgameupdates.  [The Updates
> are really important--more important than any of the other Robot Game
> documents.]
> 
> "Every year there's one mission that's supposed to make the challenge
> impossible to finish"
> 
> In fact, it is not believable that any robot will score 118 points out
> of the Cardiovascular mission.  Even if the robot did no other
> missions, in a 250-second match the robot would have to average 7
> seconds for each trip.  And the trips get progressively less
> worthwhile (with one notable exception.)
> 
> I hope that your teams won't think that just because they cannot
> achieve all the mission points, that the mission isn't worthwhile.  It
> is designed for teams of all skill levels to be able to continuously
> improve.  Does your team have 20 seconds left over in the match, where
> the robot will just be sitting around?  Then send it to the cardio
> machine and earn 5 more points! (Or 3) (or maybe 13, but I doubt that
> I'll see more than one of those...)
> 
> Newer teams that cannot score on other missions will probably be able
> to do this one several times.
> Experienced teams that want to maximize their scores will look for
> ways to do it faster and squeeze one more click into their match.
> All teams will have to weigh the risk of trying for one more cardio
> click versus allowing enough time to earn points on the Transitions
> mission.
> 
> With the introduction of the "unending" or "infinite" missions, the
> Robot Game is more open ended, and introduces more strategy and
> decisions for teams to make, as well as allowing all teams the
> opportunity to keep scoring points during the match.
> 
> Steve Scherr
> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
> 
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Emler, Paul <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Watch the video. This is the mission created this year to separate the top
>> teams. It is a time killer. It was designed that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ram Boreda
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:59 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Cardiovascular Exercise Mission - 36 trips?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>            To score the full 118 points on Cardiovascular exercise
>> missions, does the Robot need to make 36 trips to the Base? Since the Robot
>> can only turn the pin wheel 90 degrees at a time and it needs to go back to
>> base before it touches the pin wheel again, we would need to click the wheel
>> 36 times. Our team is thinking about 6-8 runs in total and is concerned that
>> they will be able to get only a small number of points from the Cardio
>> machine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>            Are we mis-understanding or mis-interpreting something here?
>> Your insights will be highly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Ram Boreda
> 
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