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Shom Paul <[log in to unmask]>
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Shom Paul <[log in to unmask]>
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Thanks Stuart for the clarification.  This makes 100% sense now.

Shom

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Stuart & Lori Roll <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

>  Shom -
>
> I think the way you phrased your question reveals a problem with how you
> are viewing the scoring.
>
> "Identification" and "Destruction" are NOT (ultimately) actions that the
> robot takes, they are ways of labeling the state of the cell model at the
> end of the match.
>
> At the end of the match if any black panels are facing south, you don't
> score.  If none face south but some face up then you get the score for
> "Identification".  If they all face north you get the score for
> "Destruction".
>
> The rules do allow judgment calls by the referee but that would be fairly
> unlikely due to the design of the model.  If your robot flips the last panel
> north right when the buzzer sounds the referee will decide what the official
> position is for scoring.  Likewise if you happen to get the panel stuck
> facing *mostly* north but not all the way.  Referees are supposed to give
> the team the benefit of the doubt in close calls.
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>  *From:* Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:44 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Question @ the mission ...
>
> Shom,
>
> That's a great question and I do not know the answer off the top of my
> head.  Being young, our team has decided to not try the bad cell mission so
> I have not paid any attention.  My gut feel would be that you would still
> get the points because in order to destroy you have to be able to identify
> first.  However, I don't know.  I'm hoping somebody on the listserv can
> answer and if they can't, chek in the FLL forums and/or send an email to
> Scott to see what the official ruling would be.
>
> Have you checked the rules and game rulings:
> http://firstlegoleague.org/media/twocol.aspx?id=247.  Also, a quick check
> of the mission shows a picture that would indicate what a "identify"
> score setup should look like at the end of the match.  Take a look and see
> what you think.  Also, make sure to check elsewhere (listserv, forums, Scott
> Evans, game rullings) to get an official answer.
>
> Sorry I could not be of more help.
>
> Lloyd O'Hara
> Coach, Crestwood Monarchs
>
>
> Sep 28, 2010 08:08:54 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> >Hey Lloyd,
> >
> >I've also got a question.
> >
> >I am wondering about the bad cell mission.  What if time runs out after
> identification
> >is complete and destruction is only 50% complete?  Does that mean you
> still get
> >the identification points or no points because at the point time ran
> out-the cells
> >are in neither correct position (for identification or destruction)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Shom
> >
> >
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >
> >solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
> They can be taken one at a time or both at the same time.  It does not
> matter,
> >as long as they are in the patient area when time runs out.
>
> Lloyd O'Hara
> Coach, Crestwood Monarchs
>
> >
> >
> >Sep 28, 2010 07:49:50 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
>
> >>
> Hello
>
> One of my students brought up an interesting question. One of the mission
> is
> >
> >>to take both the nurse and bio-engineer to the patient area - so for full
>
> >points
> >>both should be in the patient area.
>
> The question was - can they be taken one by one - or do they need to be
> taken
> >
> >>both together at the same time. Does it matter - since at the end of the
> >2.5 minutes
> >>if both are in the patient area - the team would get full points for that
>
> >mission.
>
> Thanks
> Viquar
> FLL - Team Avatar Robotics!
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