Phil:
I have the book, and have made it available to FLL 4th and 5th graders over
the last few years.  There generally is enough detail to build the
contraptions that are presented.  This year some kids built a claw from the
ideas in the book but did not end up using it in competition.  I think it
is thought provoking in a general way - most ideas in the book not ideal
for FLL.

If you have a relatively advanced student specifically looking to get
better at FLL I think the following book is great:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_Winning-2DDesign-2DMINDSTORMS-2DPatterns-2DCompetition_dp_1484221044_ref-3Dsr-5F1-5F1-3Fkeywords-3Dwinning-2Blego-2Bdesigns-26qid-3D1575917655-26s-3Dbooks-26sr-3D1-2D1&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=QZEnjR1MMKSRABFMUaWn9y9Kd8e7mvEHq_NWC_73ljM&s=jDrSTxralXfjypPqzJHJpThUpmuoqkLL9o5pHm_kod4&e=


The NXT version was recommended by an experienced coach a few years ago,
and the link above is for the newer EV3 version which is basically the
same. Though I think it is best used by a relatively advanced, really eager
5th grader.  I had one student read it cover to cover but that is the
exception.  I am going to capitalize on the post-States high to try to get
some of my team this year to read it to think about next year, but won't
push too hard, because like I said it might be best for someone really
invested in doing well at FLL (though of course may of the lessons good for
robotics in general).

Hope that helps.

Best,
Jeff


On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:37 PM Phil Smith III <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> …maybe someone out there has seen this book, can suggest whether they
> think a fifth-grader would find it useful or bewildering:
>
> *The LEGO MINDSTORMS EV3 Idea Book: 181 Simple Machines and Clever
> Contraptions 1st Edition*
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_LEGO-2DMINDSTORMS-2DEV3-2DIdea-2DBook_dp_1593276001_&d=DwIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=QZEnjR1MMKSRABFMUaWn9y9Kd8e7mvEHq_NWC_73ljM&s=ahvFBxFnoTb_ZFNWxdbqEFZ0yy-Q4bmzTWmm9XO62AQ&e=
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_LEGO-2DMINDSTORMS-2DEV3-2DIdea-2DBook_dp_1593276001_&d=DwMFAg&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=TxmoTYj7HtFCiKMUbDS79wQdNkDNw0HtN4Udr5LMet4&s=hzDFSifZGELrVaxeKC6jYXqWR95ZLuC10eLzHP3JUcQ&e=>
>
>
>
> The “See inside” doesn’t convince me either way: it appears to be all
> diagrams. Without any explanation, I’m not sure those are helpful, but
> maybe in context?
>
>
>
> Thanks for any thoughts/suggestions!
>
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