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VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
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VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:38:31 -0400
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Lloyd is 100% correct.  See Rule 23:
------
SCORING
With rare exception, your score is assessed based on the conditions at
the exact time the match ends only.
Points are not given for results the robot produces during the match
but then trashes before the end.
Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the
match end signal ends.
------

For scoring, the condition of the field is recorded only at the end of
the match.

So the robot may be able to "clean up" the field of bacteria and
ensure that the empty dispensers are worth 12 points each.

On the other hand, just because the robot did something good at the
60-second mark of the match (e.g. set the cooking timer pointer to
red), doesn't mean that the robot might not undo that later in the
match (set the cooking timer to not-red). Only the condition of the
field at the end of the match is important for scoring.

There aren't too many opportunities to mess up a seemingly completed
mission this year. The main one is the Distant Travel mission.
Touching the east wall during the middle of the match is not
significant. Only touching the east wall at the instant that the
match ends is important to earn the points.


Steve Scherr
VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> All scoring is done by looking at the field at the end of a match. If there
> are no bacteria touching the mat at the end ot the match then all emptied
> trays are worth 12 points apiece.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nirup Menon
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Virus
> Steve,
> In the question that Zack asked, he used the words "bacteria FALLS on the
> mat" (which I am interpreting to mean "when the game is in progress"), but
> you quoted the scoring condition using the words "no bacteria IS touchING
> the mat" (which I am interpreting to mean "when the game has ended and
> scoring has begun").
>
> So my question is if bacteria fall on mat, and are later collected and
> deposited in the base so that none is touching the mat outside the base,
> then would the team still qualify for 12 points for a dispenser?
>
> Thanks
> Nirup
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:52 PM, VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>
>> You are correct in recognizing that the bacteria and virus are different.
>>
>> The Disinfect mission only talks about the bacteria for its scoring
>> condition:
>> "12 POINTS EACH, if NO bacteria is touching the mat outside Base"
>> So, by Rule 3, we read the text exactly--and the virus germs don't
>> matter for this mission, only the bacteria.
>>
>> Steve Scherr
>> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Zack Sheikh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > If bacteria falls on mat the empty dispensors get 7 points instead of
>> > 12,
>> > how about if a virus falls on mat? Will the empty dispensors get 7 or
>> > 12
>> > points?
>> >
>> > Zack
>> >
>> > ________________________________

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