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Re: VADCFLL-L Digest - 7 Nov 2013 to 8 Nov 2013 (#2013-156)

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"Swayne, Nick - swaynedd" <[log in to unmask]>

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Listserve folks,

I have this covered - wešre shipping her a backup battery.

Nick

On 11/9/13, 8:03 AM, "Jaime Clemmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>We are a week away and our battery died. We don't have funds to replace
>and we are missing the back to hold the aa batteries in. Is it ok to tape
>them in on the back or will that be considered tampering or something?
>Not the best solution but not sure what other options I have.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:03 AM, "VADCFLL-L automatic digest system"
>><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> There are 4 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue.
>> 
>> Topics of the day:
>> 
>>  1. Robot Game & Core Values questions (2)
>>  2. Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... (2)
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>> Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 19:38:58 -0500
>> From:    Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> I have a follow up question regarding point 3.  Is there a place in the
>> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Chris
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 21:40:15 -0500
>> From:    VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions
>> 
>> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> 
>> Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the team to ask the referee to check
>>the
>> setup and confirm that mission models are in the proper place and locked
>> down (when appropriate).
>> 
>> -- During your pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to
>> double-check that a particular setup is correct/within spec, but you may
>> not request any custom setup, in or out of the specified setup range.
>> 
>> All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive at the
>> table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the referee.
>> 
>> I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every model each
>> time they come to the table.  That presumes that the referees aren't
>>doing
>> their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and it uses up all
>> the team's setup time (or more!)  But definitely ask the referee to
>> double-check the models that you know your robot has trouble with.  (And
>> the first team of the day in the Practice round might want to be extra
>> vigilant!)
>> 
>> If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's okay to say,
>>"I
>> know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are concerned that
>>the
>> water bottle might roll out of the truck.  Would you check that all
>>items
>> are safely within the truck, and that the sides are on tightly?"  Most
>> referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set it down again,
>>likely
>> with items safely contained in the bed of the truck.  (The Variability
>> rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any match setup, of
>>course.)
>> 
>> Steve Scherr
>> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]>
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> I have a follow up question regarding point 3.  Is there a place in the
>>> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Chris
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>> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed
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>> 
>> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the
>>team t=
>> o ask the referee to check the setup and confirm that mission models
>>are in=
>> the proper place and locked down (when appropriate).<br><br>-- During
>>your=
>> pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to double-check that a
>>part=
>> icular setup is correct/within spec, but you may not request any custom
>>set=
>> up, in or out of the specified setup range.<br>
>> <br></div>All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they
>>arrive at=
>> the table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the
>>referee.<br><=
>> br></div>I don&#39;t recommend that teams ask the referees to check
>>every m=
>> odel each time they come to the table.=A0 That presumes that the
>>referees a=
>> ren&#39;t doing their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious,
>>and i=
>> t uses up all the team&#39;s setup time (or more!)=A0 But definitely
>>ask th=
>> e referee to double-check the models that you know your robot has
>>trouble w=
>> ith.=A0 (And the first team of the day in the Practice round might want
>>to =
>> be extra vigilant!)<br>
>> <br></div>If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck,
>>it&#39;s ok=
>> ay to say, &quot;I know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we
>>are c=
>> oncerned that the water bottle might roll out of the truck.=A0 Would
>>you ch=
>> eck that all items are safely within the truck, and that the sides are
>>on t=
>> ightly?&quot;=A0 Most referees will pick up the truck to look at it and
>>set=
>> it down again, likely with items safely contained in the bed of the
>>truck.=
>> =A0 (The Variability rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any
>>match=
>> setup, of course.)<br>
>> <br>Steve Scherr<br>VA/DC FLL Referee
>>Advisor<br><div><div><div><br><br><br=
>>> </div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div
>>>class=3D"g=
>> mail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <span
>>dir=3D"ltr"=
>>> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"
>>>target=3D"_blank">christop_b@y=
>> ahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
>> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
>>.8ex;border-left:1p=
>> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steve,<br>
>> <br>
>> I have a follow up question regarding point 3. =A0Is there a place in
>>the<b=
>> r>
>> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?<br>
>> <br>
>> Best Regards,<br>
>> <br>
>> Chris<br>
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>> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed--
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:01:56 -0500
>> From:    Ramesh Subbanna <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds...
>> 
>> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> 
>> Possibly last Question,
>> 
>> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a
>> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a
>>mission
>> after the time is up ), is the score valid ?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -RAMESH
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>> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f
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>> 
>> <div dir="ltr">Possibly last Question,<div><br></div><div>If the robot
>>leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a mission at
>>about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission after the
>>time is up ), is the score valid ?</div>
>> <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div>
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>> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f--
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Date:    Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:18:45 -0500
>> From:    VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds...
>> 
>> --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>> 
>> No.  There are no points for anything that occurs after the 2:30 mark.
>> 
>> Rule 39, Match-End Scoring
>> 
>>   - Unless a specific method for producing a scoring condition is
>>   required, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the
>>match
>>   ends only.
>>   - Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the
>>   match end signal ends.
>> 
>> 
>> The referee will probably stop the robot before it can make any changes
>>to
>> the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, anyway.
>> 
>> Steve Scherr
>> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna
>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> 
>>> Possibly last Question,
>>> 
>>> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes
>>>a
>>> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a
>>>mission
>>> after the time is up ), is the score valid ?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -RAMESH
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>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> 
>> <div dir=3D"ltr">No. =A0There are no points for anything that occurs
>>after =
>> the 2:30 mark. =A0<div><br></div><div>Rule 39, Match-End
>>Scoring</div><div>
>>    =09
>> =09
>> =09
>>        <div class=3D"" title=3D"Page 25">
>>            <div class=3D"">
>>                <div class=3D"">
>>                    <ul>
>>                        <li>
>>                            Unless a specific method for producing a
>>scoring condition is requir=
>> ed, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the match
>>ends o=
>> nly.</li><li>Points are not given nor taken away for results produced
>>after=
>> the match end signal ends.<br>
>> 
>>                        </li>
>>                    </ul><div><br></div><div>The referee will probably
>>stop the robot befo=
>> re it can make any changes to the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds,
>>anyway=
>> .<br></div><div><br></div><div>Steve Scherr</div><div>VA/DC FLL Referee
>>Adv=
>> isor</div>
>> <div><br></div>
>>                </div>
>>            </div>
>>        </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div
>>class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna <span
>>>dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
>> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"
>>target=3D"_blank">ramesh.subbanna=
>> @gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
>> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
>>0.8ex;border-=
>> 
>>left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid
>>;p=
>> adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Possibly last
>>Question,<div><br></div><di=
>> v>
>> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes
>>a mi=
>> ssion at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission
>>aft=
>> er the time is up ), is the score valid ?</div>
>> <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div>
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