Re: [VADCFLL-L] Ice Core Sample
Sonya,

I can look when I get home, but I don't remember this being an issue. There is a problem with the way the contour is drawn on the map, but I don't think with the overall dimensions.

Make sure that the segments of ice all fit together closely. Our first time through, the kids messed up some of the construction so that the ice segments didn't all meet corner-to-corner. Check all those 'joints' and bends carefully to make sure it's not a half-inch too long somewhere.

Phil is right that the robot should be able to deal with a half inch of slop. The mat itself may not be in the same place relative to the walls, by almost that much. The tournament tables -should- be fairly consistent, but you never know. One tournament, a year or two ago, had tables with non-standard sides (too low, and with bolt heads sticking out), so you really never know!

Mike

Thanks so much for replying Michael, but I am still stumped.  Because it does make a difference which end you start.  The entire thing will be shifted almost a half inch difference.  And we need to know what the table at the tournament will be like.  If you start by placing the piece closest to the south wall down first, then work your way up, the model will extend over the blue line about a half inch on the end by the east wall.  And if you start putting them down with the piece by the east wall, then it will be shifted by a half inch difference on the south side.  Do you know what I mean?

Our team is actually working on a mission where they come quite close to the south end of the ice sheet, and it would make a difference if it were sticking out another half inch, or if it was lined up with the blue marks.

Am I seeing something wrong?
Thanks so much for your help,
Sonya


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Michael Blanpied <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sonya,

The latest additions to the Q&A page added a clarification on that:

RULING 15 (temporary*) - First Ice Segment
When placing your Research Area model onto the mat, there's no spec on which end to place first for the same reason you wouldn't need to tell a pair of movers which end of your couch to place down first---As long as it's where it belongs, it doesn't matter.

http://firstlegoleague.org/community/fll/gameblog.aspx

Cheers,
Mike



Hi everyone,
I still have a question about this.  It says to place each segment down one at a time.  Which end should you start with?  I am thinking the piece closest to the south border.  Is that correct?

Many thanks,
Sonya


On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Greg Robertson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Kelley
Ice Sheet This model had to be changed after the mat went into production, so it does not line up perfectly with its location marks. At first, without Dual Lock, place each segment one at a time on its mark to see where the Dual-Lock location marks miss the model. Shift the Dual Lock as needed for full contact. With the new/correct Dual Lock locations in mind, place Dual Lock as needed, position the first segment, and stick it down. For each next segment, make sure it is completely connected to the last one before sticking it down. Finally, without Dual Lock, place the little red, loopy ice core in its hole with its loop running parallel to the east border wall.
From the field setup on the website.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelley Breene
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Subject: [VADCFLL-L] Ice Core Sample

Hello Everyone,  

Our team has a question about the ice core sample.  We were wondering- should the model line up with the mat outlines?  We have built the largest part of the model and it does not line up with the outlines.  It looks like it is built right, so we wanted to see if anyone else was having issues with it.  Thanks!


Kelley Breene
St. Catherine's School
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