One idea I think would be useful is to have the top teams demonstrate their work at the end of the tournament during the awards ceremony. Have the team with the top challenge score re-run their 2.5 min missions when everyone can watch it. Then the team with the top design/programming score show their robot and describe a few of their unique features, and the team with the winning project presentation re-run their presentation. This way, all the teams have a chance to see what a really good team (of kids just like them) can do, and what is possible. In my experience, they are so busy during the day, they have little time to really see what the others teams did, and don't really know which of the teams they do see are the best. I think that most of the teams can then see how their results compare to the best at the competition without worrying about a specific score, and that gives them a very good understanding of what they could work on for next year. -----Original Message----- From: First Lego League Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Haskins Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores Speaking as a coach, *any* feedback would be better than what we get now, which is basically a score (with the recent discussion, per the FLL the score means "almost nothing"). Noting the rubric with how the team could improve on specific rubric items would be great. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Steve Scherr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > John--an alternative might be a feedback guide, helping judges understand what types of > feedback you and others find useful. > > In my experience as a judge (in another state), I made it a point always to write some comments > down. Very often they were of the form "Great job on XXX! Think about working on YYY in the > future." It was hard to give more detailed feedback because of the time constraints. The things I > emphasized varied based on the type of judging I was doing, of course. > > Would Listserv readers consider this type of feedback helpful, or do coaches think that a variety of > more generic but wider-sweeping areas are better? Examples: enthusiasm, eye contact, right > volume, team member involvement, etc.? > > Steve Scherr > Judge ______________________________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". If you want to join the VADCFLL-ADMIN-L mailing list - to which FLL administrative announcements will be distributed - visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". ______________________________________________________________ To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". If you want to join the VADCFLL-ADMIN-L mailing list - to which FLL administrative announcements will be distributed - visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html and select "Join or leave the list".