Re: [VADCFLL-L] Fw: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought
about sco
I suggest that it be offered to tournaments as something to
consider.
I also suggest that each of us poll our teams to see what the
kids think--would they be interested to see winning presentations and
robot performances at the end of the day? And would they be willing to
present to the audience if asked to do so? If there's overwhelming
support from the kids, then tournaments should be encouraged to
include this if time allows.
Cheers,
Mike
¤
That may
work for some tournaments, and that's great. Remember also though
that there are two divisions and in some tournaments first and second
place winners in several categories. Would you restrict the
presentations to just the top place winners in each from each
division? Looking at the minimum there, it will easily be another half
hour added on the end of the day.
I'm not
saying this isn't possible...just something else to
consider.
Cynthia
Judge
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From: Bobbie
Arbogast
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:36
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about
scores
That is a wonderful suggestion! It would only take
about another 10-15 minutes in the grand finale to do that.
bobbie
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From: Burke, Stephanie <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 8:40 am
Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores
One idea I think would be useful is to have the top
teams demonstrate
their work at the end of the tournament during the awards
ceremony.
Have the team with the top challenge score re-run their 2.5 min
missions
when everyone can watch it. Then the team with the top
design/programming score show their robot and describe a few of
their
unique features, and the team with the winning project
presentation
re-run their presentation. This way, all the teams have a chance
to see
what a really good team (of kids just like them) can do, and what
is
possible. In my experience, they are so busy during the day,
they have
little time to really see what the others teams did, and don't
really
know which of the teams they do see are the best. I think that
most of
the teams can then see how their results compare to the best at
the
competition without worrying about a specific score, and that gives
them
a very good understanding of what they could work on for=2
0next year.
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From: First Lego League Discussion
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Robert Haskins
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] food for thought about scores
Speaking as a coach, *any* feedback would be better than what we
get
now, which is basically a score (with the recent discussion, per
the
FLL the score means "almost nothing"). Noting the rubric
with how the
team could improve on specific rubric items would be great.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Steve Scherr <sscherr@gmailcom>
wrote:
> John--an alternative might be a feedback guide, helping
judges
understand what types of
> feedback you and others find useful.
>
> In my experience as a judge (in another state), I made it a
point
always to write some comments
> down. Very often they were of the form "Great job on
XXX! Think
about working on YYY in the
> future." It was hard to give more detailed feedback
because of the
time constraints. The things I
> emphasized varied based on the type of judging I was doing, of
course.
>
> Would Listserv readers consider this type of feedback helpful, or
do
coaches think that a variety of
> more generic but wider-sweeping areas are better?
Examples:
enthusiasm, eye contact, right
> vo
lume, team member involvement, etc.?
>
> Steve Scherr
> Judge
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