I'm curious about this as well. When we go over the yellow guide walls on our field mat, we aren't damaging them. So should we change our plan b/c others are or it might happen at the tournament? We wouldn't be aware of the potential damage if we weren't listening in on the listserv. Maybe we will have a "Plan B" ready just in case? Cari N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Roberts" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems > Hmm. I have to admit that one of the strategies my team is considering > involves driving over the walls. I didn't see anything in the rules that > preclude this but I wonder if they did this and the wall got damaged could > that be ruled "deliberate" damage? or would it only be deliberate if they > clearly intended to damage them (e.g. "bulldozing" or otherwise knocking > them out of the way)? > > Is this something that should be submitted to the Q&A blog? > > - glenn > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:46 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems > > I wouldn't worry about accidental damage. The general rule is that it's > gotta look deliberate and/or play into the team's strategy (I guess that > would imply deliberate). I.e., if your robot tries to make points by going > over the guide walls, knocking them down in the process, that would > probably > NOT be acceptable. If they're known to be fragile and they fall over when > bumped, it's as likely to hurt as help, and is not (or at least should not > be) penalizable (hmm, apparently that's not a word, but you know what I > mean!). > > And yes, sometimes they will be glued -- but you can't count on that, > either. > -- > Phil Smith III > Virginia State Judge Advisor, 2007, 2008, 2009 > Judge Advisor, Northern Virginia Regional tournaments, 2007, 2008 > Division 1 Judge Advisor, Virginia State tournament, 2006 > > Coach, The Capital Girls, Oak Hill (retired) > Team 1900 (2002) > Team 2497 (2003) > Team 2355 (2004) > Team 1945 (2005) > -----Original Message----- > From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eric Palmer > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:06 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Guide wall problems > > I'll have to go back and read the rule again about if we damage the guide > walls unintentionally. They are just a fragile design. But if the walls > are > not solid it may change the behavior of the robots and the time it takes > for > the judges to piece them together may be a factor. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave > the list". > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. > Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave > the list". > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe.