Yes--absolutely fine to use it for a while and then place it on the bone (or even choose not to....) The team won't want to break it, of course. Steve On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Lloyd O'Hara wrote: > So, if the the cast does not run afoul of rule 13, then using it tempoarily to help with another mission would be ok? > > Laura, what exactly is it your team would like to do? Does the cast have to be attached and/or taken apart? > > Lloyd > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "VA/DC Referee Advisor" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 7:26 PM > Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] using a mission model piece as an attachment > > >> Laura, >> I suspect that what your team wants to do is not allowed--because they would've already known that it's okay to do the types of thing that are allowed. >> >> Check out Rule 13, Mission Models, especially bullets 3 and 2 >> >> Bullet 3: You are limited as to how you may connect anything to a mission model. >> This means that you may not "attach" anything to the mission model (even the robot). The cast can slide over part of the robot--if it can slide off. It can sit with its sides in a container--if you can dump it out of the container. The team can use the holes in the cast to manipulate it--as long as the cast can be separated. Note that this is a starting condition--the Robot may activate a pincer to grab tightly onto a mission model, if the robot does it while acting autonomously. >> >> Bullet 2: You may not take mission models apart, even temporarily. >> This probably isn't as relevant, but it is a similar constraint. No changes to mission models are permitted. >> >> Steve >> >> On Nov 1, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Laura Dysart wrote: >> >>> I re-read the rules and couldn't find a way this isn't ok- my team was working on the cast mission and realized they could use the cast itself as part of their attachment to accomplish a different mission before attempting to repair the bone- so the cast temporarily becomes part of the attachment that woudl complete a mission? any problems i am missing? laura:) >>> >>> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". >>> >>> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-admin-l.html to subscribe.