I don;t think we can do this, but it is late and I want to ask any way. Can one of the two team members at the table hand a mission model to a team member not at the table to prep for the next robot run. For example one team member at the table handing the three white blood cells to a team member who is not at the table to load into robot arm to run in the next robot run. I think that we can't do this, but darn if I can find a rule preventing it. Of course I am tired and need to go to bed. Mike On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Darlene Pantaleo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Essentially... > 1. You may touch the robot when it is in base and inactive. > 2. You may touch anything waiting in base except when the match is > starting. At that point, during the countdown, you cannot touch anything. > 3. You may grab the robot on the field anytime (and incur a penalty), bring > it back to base, and restart it. You do not have to wait for the ref to call > start, but the ref will be looking to see that your robot has made a clean > start. If not, you will have to start again. > 4. If you are restarting the robot, the same rules apply--you cannot touch > anything when making your robot active. Example: One team member has grabbed > the robot and brought it back to restart. The other team member is touching > things in base when the robot is restarted. This is not a clean start and > the ref will recall the robot even though there was no countdown. > 5. You may not touch anything outside of base aside from your robot and > debris from accidental robot damage. > 6. You may not touch anything inside base that an active robot is touching. > > Hope this helps! > > Darlene Pantaleo > FLL Judge Advisor > Maggie Walker > P/F: 804.745.2493 > > > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Brandy bergenstock wrote: > > > > > 2) For a clean start, Rule 20 says that "YOU may NOT be touching > objects the robot is about to move or use," and "YOU may NOT be touching > objects the robot is touching," and, of course, Rule 21 says that the team > cannot touch the robot just before a start or restart: "You may not handle > the robot, or anything it’s about to move or use, during or after the > countdown, except for the single action needed to get the program running. > Because of these rules, it is highly recommend that the team members not be > touching anything in Base at the time or a start or restart. > > This is unclear to me. Is a clean start a restart after the robot is > brought back, or is it the very first time the robot is turned on? I > thought I read in LLyod's post that you didn't to wait until the referees > told you to start again after handing you the robot. You could start it > once it was in base again. > Also, the objects we can not touch, are those missions parts on the > mat that are not in base then? > I'm just trying to make sure I fully understand all the dos and don'ts. > Thanks, > Brandy > > > On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Lloyd O'Hara wrote: > > Paul, > > If I'm understanding the question correctly, you would like to know if the > team can be work on stuff in base while the bot is out doing its thing. If > I am understanding correctly, the answer, as long as it's only the two > members at the table, would be yes, its ok. Not only is it ok, its a very > sound way to approach things if you ask me. > > Thanks, > > Lloyd > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Saksvig <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Monday, November 01, 2010 3:46 PM > *Subject:* [VADCFLL-L] Handling Things in Base > > When the robot is active and out of base can the team members be working on > things in base such as loading up attachments - or do they have to wait > until the robot is inactive and back in base? > > Thanks > > Paul > > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave > the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ADMIN-L. 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