Lloyd is 100% correct. See Rule 23: ------ SCORING With rare exception, your score is assessed based on the conditions at the exact time the match ends only. • Points are not given for results the robot produces during the match but then trashes before the end. • Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the match end signal ends. ------ For scoring, the condition of the field is recorded only at the end of the match. So the robot may be able to "clean up" the field of bacteria and ensure that the empty dispensers are worth 12 points each. On the other hand, just because the robot did something good at the 60-second mark of the match (e.g. set the cooking timer pointer to red), doesn't mean that the robot might not undo that later in the match (set the cooking timer to not-red). Only the condition of the field at the end of the match is important for scoring. There aren't too many opportunities to mess up a seemingly completed mission this year. The main one is the Distant Travel mission. Touching the east wall during the middle of the match is not significant. Only touching the east wall at the instant that the match ends is important to earn the points. Steve Scherr VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Lloyd O'Hara <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > All scoring is done by looking at the field at the end of a match. If there > are no bacteria touching the mat at the end ot the match then all emptied > trays are worth 12 points apiece. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nirup Menon > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Virus > Steve, > In the question that Zack asked, he used the words "bacteria FALLS on the > mat" (which I am interpreting to mean "when the game is in progress"), but > you quoted the scoring condition using the words "no bacteria IS touchING > the mat" (which I am interpreting to mean "when the game has ended and > scoring has begun"). > > So my question is if bacteria fall on mat, and are later collected and > deposited in the base so that none is touching the mat outside the base, > then would the team still qualify for 12 points for a dispenser? > > Thanks > Nirup > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:52 PM, VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: >> >> You are correct in recognizing that the bacteria and virus are different. >> >> The Disinfect mission only talks about the bacteria for its scoring >> condition: >> "12 POINTS EACH, if NO bacteria is touching the mat outside Base" >> So, by Rule 3, we read the text exactly--and the virus germs don't >> matter for this mission, only the bacteria. >> >> Steve Scherr >> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Zack Sheikh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > If bacteria falls on mat the empty dispensors get 7 points instead of >> > 12, >> > how about if a virus falls on mat? Will the empty dispensors get 7 or >> > 12 >> > points? >> > >> > Zack >> > >> > ________________________________ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.