Zack is correct. Teams may not *attach* LEGO or objects to the trailer or any mission model Rule 10: You may not add to nor trap mission models as to cause a failure of the “gravity test.” As long as the helper pieces are not attached in the sense of the gravity test, then they should be allowable. Steve Scherr VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Zack Sheikh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I have seen some responses that suggested modifing the trailer to make the > back wheels touch the matt. Are the kids allowd to add lego peices to lift > the trailer? I thought I saw a rule stating that we can not modify the > field setup. > > On Nov 18, 2011 4:16 PM, "VA/DC Referee Advisor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Teams, >> there have been several responses to this question today and none >> are complete. There are three reasons why the trailer in its starting >> condition does not count for scoring mission points. They all come >> from the Field Setup. They are because of something that isn't there, >> something that might be there, and something that is there. >> >> 1) The meat does not start in the trailer. It starts in Base, per >> the Field Setup. >> >> "Meat & Fish – The crate of meat goes in Base, and the fish go exactly >> on their marks east of Base." >> >> 2) The trailer wheels need to touch the dock north of the white line >> to earn the points. This may or may not be the starting position, >> depending on the size of the table. Remember, the Field Setup tells >> us that the mat is flush to the south wall, so there should be a gap >> between the edge of the mat and the north wall. The starting position >> of the trailer is touching the wall (Field Setup, again). I can say >> that I've seen three sets of tables so far this season, and the front >> wheels have been touching the dock north of the the white line on all >> of them--but this is not guaranteed to be the case at your tournament. >> >> It is worth noting that the definition of "touching" says that any >> actual amount of direct contact will do. So, yes, any wheel on the >> trailer, any bit touching north of the line. >> >> "Refrigeration Trailer – The back of the white refrigeration trailer >> is pushed against the north border wall, between the two center >> fences, centered on its marks." >> >> 3) The Field Setup directs that 2 red bacteria start in the trailer. >> This violates the scoring condition that there be "no germs inside", >> and is clearly the hardest condition to change just using the robot. >> >> "Bacteria & Virus (Germs) – Bacteria go in the dispensers in the >> quantities and locations shown, except all yellow go in Base, and two >> red go in the refrigerated trailer. Eight virus go with the greens and >> eight with the pinks." >> >> So the answer to the iBots question is: "no, definitely not--it does >> not score as is." >> >> Steve Scherr >> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Cathleen Maloney >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > I just want to make sure that our team is not missing anything on the >> > Refrigerated Ground Transport mission. Is it safe to say that the >> > trailer >> > in its original starting position satisfies the criteria for the mission >> > option to have the trailer with the meat inside, no germs, with any of >> > its >> > wheels touching the port dock north of the white line? >> > Cathleen Maloney >> > Lunsford iBots - #4906 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.