Once the plane is released, can the team take down the wire?

Mac Duis

Karen Berger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>In addition to what Nick said about the timing (VA/DC FLL would not be
>possible like this without the support of JMU so we really are tied to
>their schedule - it takes hundreds of people to pull off the
>Championship tournament!), I wanted to address the other question that
>was asked - about qualifying to advance to the Championship tournament.
>This is a long explanation but I hope it will answer many of the
>questions that we get each year about awards and advancing.
>
> 
>
>The number of teams advancing is determined based on the number of
>teams in each division at each tournament.  The same percentage of
>teams is used for all tournaments and for both divisions (so the more
>teams in a division, the more teams advance).  The percentage is based
>on the total space that we have at the Championship tournament so we
>cannot accept additional teams.  Each tournament also receives awards
>to give out based on the number of teams in each division at their
>tournament.  
>
> 
>
>FIRST Lego League has a policy that teams can only receive one judged
>award (and all awards are considered judged except for the robot
>performance award) so the only way for a team to win 2 awards is for
>one of them to be robot performance.  All tournaments will have 1st
>place Champion, Robot Performance, Robot Design, Research Project and
>Core Values but some tournament will have additional awards (2nd places
>and/or Judge awards), depending on the number of teams in each
>division.  All awards are handled separately for each division.  All
>award decisions are made by the judges in a deliberation process.
>
> 
>
>The robot performance award is based on each team's top score. 
>Championship awards and the three judging areas are based on the
>judging performance (teams are ranked against each other and discussed
>during judge deliberations).  These rankings are NOT released to the
>teams (a FIRST policy) but we will return the judge comment forms to
>the teams.  In addition to performing best overall across all three
>judging areas, a team should be in the top 40% of robot performance
>scores to win the Championship award.
>
> 
>
>Advancement is based on the same criteria as the championship awards. 
>The team(s) that perform the best overall for the three judging areas
>and are in the top 40% on robot performance will advance (the number
>advancing determined by the number of teams in a division at a
>tournament).  This may mean that if more than one team in a division
>advances, a team that did not win any awards may advance if they did
>better overall than some of the teams that won in specific areas. It
>may also mean that a team that wins an award does not advance if they
>did not do as well in all three judging events and/or there are not
>enough advancing spots available.  Tournament directors do not
>determine how many advance (we dictate that to them) and cannot add
>additional teams.
>
> 
>
>I hope this helps explain the process for those who are unsure.  The
>best way to understand it though is to go through it so I recommend
>that those interested in experiencing it first hand volunteer to judge
>at an event.  It is NOT a conflict of interest to volunteer at an event
>that your team is not participating in and we're an all-volunteer
>organization that runs on a not-so-small army so we're always looking
>for more help.  You can submit a volunteer interest form and find more
>information at http://www.vadcfll.org/volunteer.html.
>
> 
>
>Thanks and we look forward to seeing the more than 500 teams that are
>signed up for the 23 regions in November.  It should be an exciting
>season!
>
> 
>
>Karen
>
>----
>
>Karen Berger
>
>VA/DC FLL Regional Tournament Coordinator
>
>Newport News and Norfolk Regional Tournament Director
>
> 
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Qualifier scheduling
>From: "Swayne, Nick - swaynedd" <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Wed, October 23, 2013 8:35 pm
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>
>There are a number of reasons – predominantly due to resources,
>competing activities and the folks at JMU who run the championship.
>
>
>VA-DC FLL is the biggest program in the world of FIRST so it takes a
>lot of folks and tournaments to make it work.  One of the driving
>forces for the qualifying schedule is that the championship has to
>happen in the fall semester.
>
>
>There are a number of other programs in the US who follow the same
>schedule – so we're not unique.
>
>
>I coached a team for 5 years and we were never "ready" but always
>advanced to the Championship tournament.  Nobody feels they are ready
>in November but you have to remember that everyone starts at the same
>time – the rules and mission details are disclosed globally on the same
>date so everyone is equally well/poorly prepared.
>
>
>For the past 2 years the team that won the VA-DC FLL Championship
>competed on the first weekend and had a VERY low robot performance
>score at their qualifying tournament.  By going on the first weekend
>they knew they were going to advance (well in advance), had time to
>raise funds, had more time to focus their practice based on feedback
>from the judges, and had the opportunity to watch other tournaments and
>see how others solved some of the missions.
>
>
>Time is often one of many limiting resources that engineers and
>scientists must deal with so this is a very realistic approximation of
>life – it is thrilling and exasperating at the same time.
>
>
>From: Rahman Rasulzada <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Rahman Rasulzada <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:03 PM
>To: vadcfll <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Qualifier scheduling
>
>
>I do agree.
>VA DC almost  2month ahead to other states.:)
>Also, out of 20 teams only 2 or 3 will qualify regional, but  is overal
>1st , 2nd 3rd? Or each categories , 1st place? 
>
>On Oct 23, 2013 7:51 PM, "Fredrik Nyman" <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>It seems that VA-DC schedules the regional qualifiers awfully early.
>Maryland does theirs in Dec/Jan.  
>
>
>The later start seems like a better idea considering that school-based
>rookie teams usually start in mid-September, a few weeks after school
>starts. 
>
>
>I am curious why Virginia's qualifiers run so early and wondering if it
>would be possible/desirable to run future qualifiers later in the years
>so teams get more time to practice? 
>
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