If you are using the older nxt, the Mindtroopers would be glad to loan you our battery pack for the tournament Email me separately for logistics. Ash On Nov 9, 2013 8:13 AM, "Jaime Clemmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We are a week away and our battery died. We don't have funds to replace > and we are missing the back to hold the aa batteries in. Is it ok to tape > them in on the back or will that be considered tampering or something? Not > the best solution but not sure what other options I have. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:03 AM, "VADCFLL-L automatic digest system" < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > There are 4 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue. > > > > Topics of the day: > > > > 1. Robot Game & Core Values questions (2) > > 2. Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... (2) > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > > > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to > subscribe. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 19:38:58 -0500 > > From: Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > I have a follow up question regarding point 3. Is there a place in the > > rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request? > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Chris > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > > > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to > subscribe. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 21:40:15 -0500 > > From: VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions > > > > --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > > Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the team to ask the referee to check the > > setup and confirm that mission models are in the proper place and locked > > down (when appropriate). > > > > -- During your pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to > > double-check that a particular setup is correct/within spec, but you may > > not request any custom setup, in or out of the specified setup range. > > > > All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive at the > > table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the referee. > > > > I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every model each > > time they come to the table. That presumes that the referees aren't > doing > > their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and it uses up all > > the team's setup time (or more!) But definitely ask the referee to > > double-check the models that you know your robot has trouble with. (And > > the first team of the day in the Practice round might want to be extra > > vigilant!) > > > > If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's okay to say, > "I > > know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are concerned that the > > water bottle might roll out of the truck. Would you check that all items > > are safely within the truck, and that the sides are on tightly?" Most > > referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set it down again, > likely > > with items safely contained in the bed of the truck. (The Variability > > rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any match setup, of course.) > > > > Steve Scherr > > VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Steve, > >> > >> I have a follow up question regarding point 3. Is there a place in the > >> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request? > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > >> leave the list". > >> > >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > >> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to > subscribe. > > > > --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the > team t= > > o ask the referee to check the setup and confirm that mission models are > in= > > the proper place and locked down (when appropriate).<br><br>-- During > your= > > pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to double-check that a > part= > > icular setup is correct/within spec, but you may not request any custom > set= > > up, in or out of the specified setup range.<br> > > <br></div>All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive > at= > > the table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the > referee.<br><= > > br></div>I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every m= > > odel each time they come to the table.=A0 That presumes that the > referees a= > > ren't doing their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and i= > > t uses up all the team's setup time (or more!)=A0 But definitely ask th= > > e referee to double-check the models that you know your robot has > trouble w= > > ith.=A0 (And the first team of the day in the Practice round might want > to = > > be extra vigilant!)<br> > > <br></div>If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's ok= > > ay to say, "I know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are c= > > oncerned that the water bottle might roll out of the truck.=A0 Would you > ch= > > eck that all items are safely within the truck, and that the sides are > on t= > > ightly?"=A0 Most referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set= > > it down again, likely with items safely contained in the bed of the > truck.= > > =A0 (The Variability rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any > match= > > setup, of course.)<br> > > <br>Steve Scherr<br>VA/DC FLL Referee > Advisor<br><div><div><div><br><br><br= > >> </div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div > class=3D"g= > > mail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <span > dir=3D"ltr"= > >> <<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">christop_b@y > = > > ahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> > > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 > .8ex;border-left:1p= > > x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steve,<br> > > <br> > > I have a follow up question regarding point 3. =A0Is there a place in > the<b= > > r> > > rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?<br> > > <br> > > Best Regards,<br> > > <br> > > Chris<br> > > <br> > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit <a > href=3D"https://= > > listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html" target=3D"_blank"> > https://listser= > > v.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or leave the li= > > st".<br> > > > > <br> > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-= > > L. Visit <a href=3D" > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS= > > -l.html" target=3D"_blank"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUN= > > CEMENTS-l.html</a> to subscribe.<br> > > > > </blockquote></div><br></div> > > <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > > <a href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or > leave the list". > > <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit <a href=3D" > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html</a> to > subscribe. > > > > --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed-- > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:01:56 -0500 > > From: Ramesh Subbanna <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... > > > > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > > Possibly last Question, > > > > If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a > > mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission > > after the time is up ), is the score valid ? > > > > Thanks, > > -RAMESH > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > > > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to > subscribe. > > > > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > > <div dir="ltr">Possibly last Question,<div><br></div><div>If the robot > leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a mission at > about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission after the > time is up ), is the score valid ?</div> > > <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div> > > <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > > <a href="https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or > leave the list". > > <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit <a href=" > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html</a> to > subscribe. > > > > --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f-- > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:18:45 -0500 > > From: VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... > > > > --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > > > No. There are no points for anything that occurs after the 2:30 mark. > > > > Rule 39, Match-End Scoring > > > > - Unless a specific method for producing a scoring condition is > > required, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the > match > > ends only. > > - Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the > > match end signal ends. > > > > > > The referee will probably stop the robot before it can make any changes > to > > the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, anyway. > > > > Steve Scherr > > VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna > > <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > > >> Possibly last Question, > >> > >> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a > >> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a > mission > >> after the time is up ), is the score valid ? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -RAMESH > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > > > > -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to > subscribe. > > > > --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > <div dir=3D"ltr">No. =A0There are no points for anything that occurs > after = > > the 2:30 mark. =A0<div><br></div><div>Rule 39, Match-End > Scoring</div><div> > > =09 > > =09 > > =09 > > <div class=3D"" title=3D"Page 25"> > > <div class=3D""> > > <div class=3D""> > > <ul> > > <li> > > Unless a specific method for producing a > scoring condition is requir= > > ed, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the match > ends o= > > nly.</li><li>Points are not given nor taken away for results produced > after= > > the match end signal ends.<br> > > > > </li> > > </ul><div><br></div><div>The referee will probably > stop the robot befo= > > re it can make any changes to the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, > anyway= > > .<br></div><div><br></div><div>Steve Scherr</div><div>VA/DC FLL Referee > Adv= > > isor</div> > > <div><br></div> > > </div> > > </div> > > </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div > class=3D"gmail_quote"= > >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a = > > href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" > target=3D"_blank">ramesh.subbanna= > > @gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> > > <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px > 0.8ex;border-= > > > left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p= > > adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Possibly last > Question,<div><br></div><di= > > v> > > If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a > mi= > > ssion at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission > aft= > > er the time is up ), is the score valid ?</div> > > <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div> > > </blockquote></div><br></div></div> > > <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > > <a href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or > leave the list". > > <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via > VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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