Listserve folks, I have this covered - wešre shipping her a backup battery. Nick On 11/9/13, 8:03 AM, "Jaime Clemmer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >We are a week away and our battery died. We don't have funds to replace >and we are missing the back to hold the aa batteries in. Is it ok to tape >them in on the back or will that be considered tampering or something? >Not the best solution but not sure what other options I have. > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:03 AM, "VADCFLL-L automatic digest system" >><[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> There are 4 messages totalling 281 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. Robot Game & Core Values questions (2) >> 2. Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... (2) >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>subscribe. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 19:38:58 -0500 >> From: Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> I have a follow up question regarding point 3. Is there a place in the >> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Chris >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>subscribe. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 21:40:15 -0500 >> From: VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Robot Game & Core Values questions >> >> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> >> Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the team to ask the referee to check >>the >> setup and confirm that mission models are in the proper place and locked >> down (when appropriate). >> >> -- During your pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to >> double-check that a particular setup is correct/within spec, but you may >> not request any custom setup, in or out of the specified setup range. >> >> All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they arrive at the >> table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the referee. >> >> I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check every model each >> time they come to the table. That presumes that the referees aren't >>doing >> their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, and it uses up all >> the team's setup time (or more!) But definitely ask the referee to >> double-check the models that you know your robot has trouble with. (And >> the first team of the day in the Practice round might want to be extra >> vigilant!) >> >> If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, it's okay to say, >>"I >> know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we are concerned that >>the >> water bottle might roll out of the truck. Would you check that all >>items >> are safely within the truck, and that the sides are on tightly?" Most >> referees will pick up the truck to look at it and set it down again, >>likely >> with items safely contained in the bed of the truck. (The Variability >> rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any match setup, of >>course.) >> >> Steve Scherr >> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <[log in to unmask]> >>>wrote: >>> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> I have a follow up question regarding point 3. Is there a place in the >>> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request? >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>> leave the list". >>> >>> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>> subscribe. >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>subscribe. >> >> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed >> Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Rule 19, Quality Control, allows the >>team t= >> o ask the referee to check the setup and confirm that mission models >>are in= >> the proper place and locked down (when appropriate).<br><br>-- During >>your= >> pre-match setup time only, you may ask the ref to double-check that a >>part= >> icular setup is correct/within spec, but you may not request any custom >>set= >> up, in or out of the specified setup range.<br> >> <br></div>All teams are encouraged to inspect the field when they >>arrive at= >> the table, and to point out anything that looks funny to the >>referee.<br><= >> br></div>I don't recommend that teams ask the referees to check >>every m= >> odel each time they come to the table.=A0 That presumes that the >>referees a= >> ren't doing their job maintaining the table, and it gets tedious, >>and i= >> t uses up all the team's setup time (or more!)=A0 But definitely >>ask th= >> e referee to double-check the models that you know your robot has >>trouble w= >> ith.=A0 (And the first team of the day in the Practice round might want >>to = >> be extra vigilant!)<br> >> <br></div>If the water bottle is close to the end of the truck, >>it's ok= >> ay to say, "I know that we cannot request a custom setup, but we >>are c= >> oncerned that the water bottle might roll out of the truck.=A0 Would >>you ch= >> eck that all items are safely within the truck, and that the sides are >>on t= >> ightly?"=A0 Most referees will pick up the truck to look at it and >>set= >> it down again, likely with items safely contained in the bed of the >>truck.= >> =A0 (The Variability rule, Rule 42, may still come into play with any >>match= >> setup, of course.)<br> >> <br>Steve Scherr<br>VA/DC FLL Referee >>Advisor<br><div><div><div><br><br><br= >>> </div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div >>>class=3D"g= >> mail_quote">On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Chris Bolster <span >>dir=3D"ltr"= >>> <<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" >>>target=3D"_blank">christop_b@y= >> ahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 >>.8ex;border-left:1p= >> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Steve,<br> >> <br> >> I have a follow up question regarding point 3. =A0Is there a place in >>the<b= >> r> >> rules we can refer to that allows for the truck reload request?<br> >> <br> >> Best Regards,<br> >> <br> >> Chris<br> >> <br> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit <a >>href=3D"https://= >> listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html" >>target=3D"_blank">https://listser= >> v.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or leave >>the li= >> st".<br> >> >> <br> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-= >> L. Visit <a >>href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS= >> -l.html" >>target=3D"_blank">https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUN= >> CEMENTS-l.html</a> to subscribe.<br> >> >> </blockquote></div><br></div> >> <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> <a href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit <a >>href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html">h >>ttps://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html</a> to >>subscribe. >> >> --e89a8ffbad693c28e704eab56bed-- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:01:56 -0500 >> From: Ramesh Subbanna <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... >> >> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> >> Possibly last Question, >> >> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a >> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a >>mission >> after the time is up ), is the score valid ? >> >> Thanks, >> -RAMESH >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>subscribe. >> >> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f >> Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> >> <div dir="ltr">Possibly last Question,<div><br></div><div>If the robot >>leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes a mission at >>about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission after the >>time is up ), is the score valid ?</div> >> <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div> >> <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> <a href="https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit <a >>href="https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html">htt >>ps://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html</a> to >>subscribe. >> >> --047d7b5d5c14544f7804eab68f2f-- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 23:18:45 -0500 >> From: VA/DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds... >> >> --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> >> No. There are no points for anything that occurs after the 2:30 mark. >> >> Rule 39, Match-End Scoring >> >> - Unless a specific method for producing a scoring condition is >> required, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the >>match >> ends only. >> - Points are not given nor taken away for results produced after the >> match end signal ends. >> >> >> The referee will probably stop the robot before it can make any changes >>to >> the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, anyway. >> >> Steve Scherr >> VA/DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna >> <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Possibly last Question, >>> >>> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes >>>a >>> mission at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a >>>mission >>> after the time is up ), is the score valid ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -RAMESH >> >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> >> -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to >>subscribe. >> >> --bcaec520efab7f7ccd04eab6cbd1 >> Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> <div dir=3D"ltr">No. =A0There are no points for anything that occurs >>after = >> the 2:30 mark. =A0<div><br></div><div>Rule 39, Match-End >>Scoring</div><div> >> =09 >> =09 >> =09 >> <div class=3D"" title=3D"Page 25"> >> <div class=3D""> >> <div class=3D""> >> <ul> >> <li> >> Unless a specific method for producing a >>scoring condition is requir= >> ed, your score comes from the conditions at the exact time the match >>ends o= >> nly.</li><li>Points are not given nor taken away for results produced >>after= >> the match end signal ends.<br> >> >> </li> >> </ul><div><br></div><div>The referee will probably >>stop the robot befo= >> re it can make any changes to the field after 2 minutes, 30 seconds, >>anyway= >> .<br></div><div><br></div><div>Steve Scherr</div><div>VA/DC FLL Referee >>Adv= >> isor</div> >> <div><br></div> >> </div> >> </div> >> </div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div >>class=3D"gmail_quote"= >>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ramesh Subbanna <span >>>dir=3D"ltr"><<a = >> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" >>target=3D"_blank">ramesh.subbanna= >> @gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> >> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px >>0.8ex;border-= >> >>left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid >>;p= >> adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Possibly last >>Question,<div><br></div><di= >> v> >> If the robot leaves the base at 2 minutes and 29 seconds and completes >>a mi= >> ssion at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds ( I mean it completes a mission >>aft= >> er the time is up ), is the score valid ?</div> >> <div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-RAMESH</div></div> >> </blockquote></div><br></div></div> >> <hr />To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> <a href=3D"https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html"> >>https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html</a> and select "Join or >>leave the list". >> <br />VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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