My two cents; given unlimited time I would love to have my teams figure out every design aspect of their robots all by themselves. However, given the time constraints I prefer to bring them my stack of books and encourage them to look online for ideas. I consider it research and often refer to the meme that architects have three thousand years of bridges to which to refer when they design new bridges. I do not consider it a good use of their time in reinventing the wheel. I have often seen my teams meld the best ideas of more than one design in creating their robots. For all-rookie teams, I see nothing wrong with taking the basic LEGO Tribot and modifying it with new attachments for the competition. Just my opinion. Randall Greene The Robot Engineers #6461 9th year coach. > On Sep 14, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Frank Levine<[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi all, > I was wondering where the line is between 'kids do the work' vs 'starter > robot' is? I have seen several suggestions (both here and on the > interwebs) that this/that robot is a great robot for rookies, etc. While > my team has been trying to make a decent robot from scratch, I have taken > many of the suggestions that I have seen from the internet and made what I > think is a decent driving base. Is it appropriate to hand that base over > to the rookies and let them go from there? Will the judges frown on a > coach doing some of the initial legwork to get a base started? What's the > difference between that and finding a starting base on-line? Ideally I > would love to see them make it from scratch, but today's building session > has me thinking that this may be a bit of a stretch. > > Thanks, > Frank Levine > "The Construction Mavericks" > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.