If I understand the rules correctly, our model can have non-FLL minifigs attached as well. The FLL provided ones need to be attached at the tournament. Correct? -Frank On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes, use the mini figures provided. > > Your team builds and brings a model. Once at the table, they attach the > figures provided to the model and get points for that. > > I am guessing that the reason they aren't supposed to bring figures and > balls is to reduce chaos and kids and coaches inadvertently walking off > with mission models from the tables. > > On Monday, November 10, 2014, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi there >> just trying to figure out the rules on Apprenticeship. Are you saying >> that to get the full 35 points the team has to use the mini figures >> provided by the tournament? I thought they could bring their own? Is it a >> matter of getting full points? >> Thanks for any clarification. Here was the latest update we saw: >> >> 30 – APPRENTICESHIP PEOPLE, WHITE CIRCLE Update 25 was meant to remind >> you about Rule 18, Exception 2. You ARE allowed to arrive with people as >> part of your model, if they aren’t duplicates of this year’s mission model >> people. (Clarification of Update 25) Of the two interpretations of what >> could be meant by “white circle,” area vs perimeter, the area is what >> matters. So if your model ends up touching only the interior, and not the >> edge, that’s okay. (Apprenticeship clarification) >> >> Thanks! >> >> The Brick Bandits >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:32 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> We had 8 FLL tournaments in Virginia this weekend, and it looks like >> teams had a great time. I know that the referees were impressed at all the >> creative solutions teams found to accomplish their selected missions, and >> I've heard good things from the judges too. I hope that the week 1 >> activity during core values judging helped to raise everyone's expectations! >> >> There a few things that surprised some teams at the robot game tables, >> that I would like to give teams a heads-up about. >> >> First a reminder--don't trust any pictures or video unless the text of >> the Robot Game agrees with them. According to Rule 5: >> >> "When there is conflict between pictures/videos and text, the text takes >> precedence!" >> >> 1) Engagement mission setup >> According to the Field Setup, and Game Update 5, the engagement >> pinwheel setup is with its red arm up. (That means that the main body of >> the arm points straight up.) Both pictures on pages 10 and 29 are >> incorrect. >> >> 2) Bouncing the Sports Ball >> Teams at several tournaments discovered that the blue ball may not >> bounce the same on competition or practice tables as it does on the table >> that they practiced on. I know that at some tournaments, there was a >> mixture of behaviors among both the competition and practice tables. We're >> sorry about this unexpected behavior, but it is covered by Rule 4, >> Variability, and no team will know what to expect until they get to the >> table. >> >> 3) Ramming the Door >> As described in the mission and rules, the team doesn't get points >> for opening the door by ramming it and breaking it. You must push down on >> the handle to allow the door to open. >> >> 4) Loop in the Senses mission >> Update 32 was a little too subtle about the loop in the Using the >> Right Senses mission. The mission requirement is that the loop is >> "released" only by pushing the slider. The update says not to expect the >> the loop will be "ejected" by using the slider. The update is also trying >> to say that "release" means "to allow to be moved or taken", so, once your >> robot pushes the slider to lift the weight out of the way, the robot is >> allowed to remove the loop from the model. >> >> 5) Reverse Engineering--making the original model during setup >> Your team is required to build an original model out of all 6 pieces >> when they get to the table, even if they don't plan to do the Reverse >> Engineering. See the Field Setup, and Updates 14 and 24. The two Robot >> Handlers are the only ones allowed to build the model. Being prepared for >> this is part of being a Gracious Professional. >> >> 6) Apprenticeship--try it out! >> If your team isn't doing the Apprenticeship mission, they really >> should take a look at Update 7 >> >> 7) Apprenticeship People >> As discussed earlier today, your team is required to use the people >> at the table in order to score full points on the Apprenticeship mission. >> >> 8) Kidnapping >> Please be careful, both at the competition tables and the practice >> tables, that you don't take any mission models, such as the people or the >> blue ball. If you discover them, take them back immediately. Removing >> them hurts other teams, and thus is against Gracious Professionalism. >> You shouldn't bring the Apprenticeship people from your practice kit, >> and you should avoid bringing any blue balls, if at all possible. >> Tournament volunteers will think that they belong to the tournament kits, >> and will ask you to hand them over. >> >> Best wishes to all FLL teams in the upcoming weeks! >> >> Steve Scherr >> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> ------------------------------ >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >> leave the list". >> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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