Yes, that is correct. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Frank Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > If I understand the rules correctly, our model can have non-FLL minifigs > attached as well. The FLL provided ones need to be attached at the > tournament. > > Correct? > > -Frank > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Yes, use the mini figures provided. >> >> Your team builds and brings a model. Once at the table, they attach the >> figures provided to the model and get points for that. >> >> I am guessing that the reason they aren't supposed to bring figures and >> balls is to reduce chaos and kids and coaches inadvertently walking off >> with mission models from the tables. >> >> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> just trying to figure out the rules on Apprenticeship. Are you saying >>> that to get the full 35 points the team has to use the mini figures >>> provided by the tournament? I thought they could bring their own? Is it a >>> matter of getting full points? >>> Thanks for any clarification. Here was the latest update we saw: >>> >>> 30 – APPRENTICESHIP PEOPLE, WHITE CIRCLE Update 25 was meant to remind >>> you about Rule 18, Exception 2. You ARE allowed to arrive with people as >>> part of your model, if they aren’t duplicates of this year’s mission model >>> people. (Clarification of Update 25) Of the two interpretations of what >>> could be meant by “white circle,” area vs perimeter, the area is what >>> matters. So if your model ends up touching only the interior, and not the >>> edge, that’s okay. (Apprenticeship clarification) >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> The Brick Bandits >>> >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:32 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We had 8 FLL tournaments in Virginia this weekend, and it looks like >>> teams had a great time. I know that the referees were impressed at all the >>> creative solutions teams found to accomplish their selected missions, and >>> I've heard good things from the judges too. I hope that the week 1 >>> activity during core values judging helped to raise everyone's expectations! >>> >>> There a few things that surprised some teams at the robot game tables, >>> that I would like to give teams a heads-up about. >>> >>> First a reminder--don't trust any pictures or video unless the text of >>> the Robot Game agrees with them. According to Rule 5: >>> >>> "When there is conflict between pictures/videos and text, the text takes >>> precedence!" >>> >>> 1) Engagement mission setup >>> According to the Field Setup, and Game Update 5, the engagement >>> pinwheel setup is with its red arm up. (That means that the main body of >>> the arm points straight up.) Both pictures on pages 10 and 29 are >>> incorrect. >>> >>> 2) Bouncing the Sports Ball >>> Teams at several tournaments discovered that the blue ball may not >>> bounce the same on competition or practice tables as it does on the table >>> that they practiced on. I know that at some tournaments, there was a >>> mixture of behaviors among both the competition and practice tables. We're >>> sorry about this unexpected behavior, but it is covered by Rule 4, >>> Variability, and no team will know what to expect until they get to the >>> table. >>> >>> 3) Ramming the Door >>> As described in the mission and rules, the team doesn't get points >>> for opening the door by ramming it and breaking it. You must push down on >>> the handle to allow the door to open. >>> >>> 4) Loop in the Senses mission >>> Update 32 was a little too subtle about the loop in the Using the >>> Right Senses mission. The mission requirement is that the loop is >>> "released" only by pushing the slider. The update says not to expect the >>> the loop will be "ejected" by using the slider. The update is also trying >>> to say that "release" means "to allow to be moved or taken", so, once your >>> robot pushes the slider to lift the weight out of the way, the robot is >>> allowed to remove the loop from the model. >>> >>> 5) Reverse Engineering--making the original model during setup >>> Your team is required to build an original model out of all 6 pieces >>> when they get to the table, even if they don't plan to do the Reverse >>> Engineering. See the Field Setup, and Updates 14 and 24. The two Robot >>> Handlers are the only ones allowed to build the model. Being prepared for >>> this is part of being a Gracious Professional. >>> >>> 6) Apprenticeship--try it out! >>> If your team isn't doing the Apprenticeship mission, they really >>> should take a look at Update 7 >>> >>> 7) Apprenticeship People >>> As discussed earlier today, your team is required to use the people >>> at the table in order to score full points on the Apprenticeship mission. >>> >>> 8) Kidnapping >>> Please be careful, both at the competition tables and the practice >>> tables, that you don't take any mission models, such as the people or the >>> blue ball. If you discover them, take them back immediately. Removing >>> them hurts other teams, and thus is against Gracious Professionalism. >>> You shouldn't bring the Apprenticeship people from your practice >>> kit, and you should avoid bringing any blue balls, if at all possible. >>> Tournament volunteers will think that they belong to the tournament kits, >>> and will ask you to hand them over. >>> >>> Best wishes to all FLL teams in the upcoming weeks! >>> >>> Steve Scherr >>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>> leave the list". >>> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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