Sure thing. Minifigs are Regular Elements (Rule 18). On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > So you can have more than 2 mini figures attached to the apprenticeship > structure (your own 2 and 2 others?) > > Brick Bandits > > On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > Yes, that is correct. > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Frank Levine <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> If I understand the rules correctly, our model can have non-FLL minifigs >> attached as well. The FLL provided ones need to be attached at the >> tournament. >> >> Correct? >> >> -Frank >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Fredrik Nyman <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, use the mini figures provided. >>> >>> Your team builds and brings a model. Once at the table, they attach the >>> figures provided to the model and get points for that. >>> >>> I am guessing that the reason they aren't supposed to bring figures and >>> balls is to reduce chaos and kids and coaches inadvertently walking off >>> with mission models from the tables. >>> >>> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Hal Swetnam <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there >>>> just trying to figure out the rules on Apprenticeship. Are you saying >>>> that to get the full 35 points the team has to use the mini figures >>>> provided by the tournament? I thought they could bring their own? Is it a >>>> matter of getting full points? >>>> Thanks for any clarification. Here was the latest update we saw: >>>> >>>> 30 – APPRENTICESHIP PEOPLE, WHITE CIRCLE Update 25 was meant to remind >>>> you about Rule 18, Exception 2. You ARE allowed to arrive with people as >>>> part of your model, if they aren’t duplicates of this year’s mission model >>>> people. (Clarification of Update 25) Of the two interpretations of what >>>> could be meant by “white circle,” area vs perimeter, the area is what >>>> matters. So if your model ends up touching only the interior, and not the >>>> edge, that’s okay. (Apprenticeship clarification) >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> The Brick Bandits >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:32 PM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We had 8 FLL tournaments in Virginia this weekend, and it looks like >>>> teams had a great time. I know that the referees were impressed at all the >>>> creative solutions teams found to accomplish their selected missions, and >>>> I've heard good things from the judges too. I hope that the week 1 >>>> activity during core values judging helped to raise everyone's expectations! >>>> >>>> There a few things that surprised some teams at the robot game tables, >>>> that I would like to give teams a heads-up about. >>>> >>>> First a reminder--don't trust any pictures or video unless the text of >>>> the Robot Game agrees with them. According to Rule 5: >>>> >>>> "When there is conflict between pictures/videos and text, the text >>>> takes precedence!" >>>> >>>> 1) Engagement mission setup >>>> According to the Field Setup, and Game Update 5, the engagement >>>> pinwheel setup is with its red arm up. (That means that the main body of >>>> the arm points straight up.) Both pictures on pages 10 and 29 are >>>> incorrect. >>>> >>>> 2) Bouncing the Sports Ball >>>> Teams at several tournaments discovered that the blue ball may not >>>> bounce the same on competition or practice tables as it does on the table >>>> that they practiced on. I know that at some tournaments, there was a >>>> mixture of behaviors among both the competition and practice tables. We're >>>> sorry about this unexpected behavior, but it is covered by Rule 4, >>>> Variability, and no team will know what to expect until they get to the >>>> table. >>>> >>>> 3) Ramming the Door >>>> As described in the mission and rules, the team doesn't get points >>>> for opening the door by ramming it and breaking it. You must push down on >>>> the handle to allow the door to open. >>>> >>>> 4) Loop in the Senses mission >>>> Update 32 was a little too subtle about the loop in the Using the >>>> Right Senses mission. The mission requirement is that the loop is >>>> "released" only by pushing the slider. The update says not to expect the >>>> the loop will be "ejected" by using the slider. The update is also trying >>>> to say that "release" means "to allow to be moved or taken", so, once your >>>> robot pushes the slider to lift the weight out of the way, the robot is >>>> allowed to remove the loop from the model. >>>> >>>> 5) Reverse Engineering--making the original model during setup >>>> Your team is required to build an original model out of all 6 >>>> pieces when they get to the table, even if they don't plan to do the >>>> Reverse Engineering. See the Field Setup, and Updates 14 and 24. The two >>>> Robot Handlers are the only ones allowed to build the model. Being >>>> prepared for this is part of being a Gracious Professional. >>>> >>>> 6) Apprenticeship--try it out! >>>> If your team isn't doing the Apprenticeship mission, they really >>>> should take a look at Update 7 >>>> >>>> 7) Apprenticeship People >>>> As discussed earlier today, your team is required to use the people >>>> at the table in order to score full points on the Apprenticeship mission. >>>> >>>> 8) Kidnapping >>>> Please be careful, both at the competition tables and the practice >>>> tables, that you don't take any mission models, such as the people or the >>>> blue ball. If you discover them, take them back immediately. Removing >>>> them hurts other teams, and thus is against Gracious Professionalism. >>>> You shouldn't bring the Apprenticeship people from your practice >>>> kit, and you should avoid bringing any blue balls, if at all possible. >>>> Tournament volunteers will think that they belong to the tournament kits, >>>> and will ask you to hand them over. >>>> >>>> Best wishes to all FLL teams in the upcoming weeks! >>>> >>>> Steve Scherr >>>> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >>>> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >>>> leave the list". >>>> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >>>> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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