Prasanna's team's conclusions are mostly correct. As Shiva noted, there are only 4 Black Bars in the building. For #1, the net score would be 85+60-32 =113 For #2, an undisturbed building is 32 points. There are 8 other Black Bars involved in the overall score. Yes, my Sorter model works the way you describe. Steve Scherr Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor On Thursday, October 29, 2015, Prasanna <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello, > > Some team members came into conflicting conclusions for the sorter, > salvage and demolition mission and after reading the manual several times, > the following conclusions were reached ( which I think are accurate), but > wanted to reach out to the community to verify if their understanding is > correct > > 1. If the team decides to run the demolition and salvage missions, a score > of 85 and 60 is possible. But if the 8 black bars are left in safety > without further action, a penalty of 64 points will have to be taken, > leading to a net score of 85 + 60 - 64 = 81 points for the 3 missions > 2. If the building is left undemolished, the team will get 64 points for > the 8 black bars left undisturbed. ( and 96 if no other penalties are > incurred) > > Another question on the sorter mission - > > If the wheel is turned in a particular direction ( counter-clockwise), the > plastic bag gets disengaged from the sorter mission. Wanted to check if > this is working correctly or if we have a build problem with the sorter > model? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:22 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: > >> This year's Robot Game has a lot of different choices that teams can make >> as part of their overall strategy. >> (Note that this message mostly talks about what the models represent, as >> a way of understanding the scoring parts of mission M04, rather than >> specifically talking about the details of the scoring conditions.) >> >> The basics of the Sorter mission are that, if your team collects any of >> the colored Bars, then putting them into the Sorter and sorting them into >> their respective Green Bins leads to positive results. After doing that, >> you might decide to try to send the useful ones (Yellow and Blue) off to >> somewhere else, via your West Transfer Area. >> >> You want to be careful with the Black Bars--they represent stuff that >> is hard or dangerous to recycle, like styrofoam, used motor oil. or rare >> metals in electronic gear. If you can leave them where they are, then they >> don't get into your recycling stream, or contaminate the environment. But >> that limits what you can do. So if you can contain and minimize their >> effects, then you can do useful stuff with other materials. There are >> trade-offs in what your team decides, just like in real life. For capable >> robots, the cost-benefit ratio is in favor of trying to do something good, >> rather than just keeping everything in stasis. >> >> The referees witness your team's strategy during the Robot Game, and >> score the match based on the results. The Robot Design judges want to hear >> about your team's strategy--why did they make the choices they did in >> construction of the robot, and in putting tasks together to achieve the >> team's goals. One part of that can be discussing whether trying to do some >> task is worth it to the team rather than spending time on something else. >> >> Steve Scherr >> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Tonya Lapham <[log in to unmask] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am having a difficult time understanding how to score the points for >>> the sorter mission. It seems there several ways to look at this mission. >>> Any insights would br appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Tonya Lapham >>> >> ------------------------------ >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >> leave the list". >> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to >> subscribe. > > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.