I should emphasize that THE VIDEO IS GUARANTEED TO BE WRONG ABOUT THE GAME. Rule GP5--Info Precedence Pictures and video have no standing, except when referred to by text in #1, #2, or #3. Note that the Robot Game Update also reminds you of this The robot game video is misleading about this – sorry – this is why Rule GP5 tells you to pay attention to TEXT and NOT VIDEO. The teams that are most successful at the Robot Game, re-read and review the Rules, Missions, Update, and Field Setup frequently. Once you've been doing things for a while, going back to the text can show you problems or give you new ideas. Steve Scherr Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor P.S. I did finally watch the video last night, just for fun. I didn't need to, since saying "I saw it in the video" will never help a team succeed in a discussion with the referee. On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > JMU Security Warning: The message below contains a link to a non-JMU > service where fraudulent sites are often found. DO NOT TYPE JMU PASSWORDS > INTO THE SITE. Do not click the link unless you're sure the site serves a > legitimate purpose known to you. > ------------------------------ > > > yup. and after sending this email.. I saw how more "legal ways" of doing > it: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DUsgnG0o7Ons&d=BQIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=VetIsaxrSCOcABDf1bXyr0xsNrLBMYpOqkqMssdLW5o&s=EcvkABpEP5a7gvPUBowmggBF7BzQBjptXTj1OpQyxnM&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DUsgnG0o7Ons&d=BQMFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=JkD8H3l-Hia2JlX1wzoKZ9mg1rIbWn4DTDhru9NGVfI&s=bhZNr3nOpNK-gtMU-DVa4N8-Qy6qZF13jQMCl5Q1zA4&e=> > > > I'll have the kids re-read that set of rules. > > > Thanks > > > Tweeks > ------------------------------ > *From:* [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> on behalf > of Lord Of The Bricks <[log in to unmask]> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 8, 2015 10:54 AM > *To:* Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks > *Cc:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [VADCFLL-L] Collecting Demolition Bars > > The one thing I noticed in this video is that it stresses that you must > push the red lever to demo the building. The rules state: > "Basic Mission Description: Demolish the Building and decide what to do > with the materials. > ●● Specific physical requirement, visible at the end of the match: > • Value: 85 None of the Building’s twelve beams is left standing in Setup > position. > > There is no specific mention of the red lever, so, it is not a requirement. > > Also, the rules state: > R12 – Launching – A proper Launch (or re-Launch) goes like this: > ●● Ready Situation > • Your Robot and everything related to its next Autonomous period are > arranged as desired and all completely > contained within and under the limits of BASE. > • The Ref can see that nothing in Base is moving, and *that you’re not > touching anything.* > ●● Activation Method Options > • ACTIVE: Reach with one hand and touch a button or signal a sensor to > prompt a program. > • PASSIVE: Do nothing and allow a running program to resume. > SPECIAL CASE: Match Start – In this case, the exact time to Launch is the > beginning of the last word/sound in the > countdown, such as “Ready, set, GO!” or BEEEEP! > ●● The properly Launched/re-Launched Robot is Autonomous until you > Interrupt it. > ●● Every change completely outside Safety caused by the Robot stays that > way. > ●● Except: The Robot may change its own changes. > ●● *You are not allowed to cause anything to leave or even extend out of > Base except by Launching/re-Launching.* > ●● If you accidentally propel something out of Base, that’s okay to > recover immediately without disturbing the Field. > > Therefore, extending something from base that is not attached to the robot > is not allowed. > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hey all.. >> >> >> So we were watching this video on collecting the bars for the demolition: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxlQuRggmyg0&d=BQIFaQ&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=k6Oa5GxfBPFMgGjb2r5QIoEOeBZs9xbNIpA0kLw_kFQ&m=VetIsaxrSCOcABDf1bXyr0xsNrLBMYpOqkqMssdLW5o&s=p7r-j7SGQXJzhFJq8EAJ6flUaDlbfVnLfFU8h6YRbKE&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3DxlQuRggmyg0&d=BQMFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=vmjzxrz3Fl_RR5gbE-Fp5uxxxQ4ewGTRS2dKJRphCMI&s=7kspQinSo0AG_oM_0agfCMCVOpYvgvLyPXZ4Jvz0RE0&e=> >> >> (see 1:34) >> >> >> and were wondering.. how involved can the operator be in the deployment >> of a gathering gate like that? >> >> >> Rules state: >> >> ● You are not allowed to cause anything to leave or even extend out of >> Base except by Launching/re-Launching. >> >> >> Does this mean that the robot MUST launch a collection arm into the field >> like that.. or can an operator set up the arm to passively "fall" (from >> base) into the field? >> >> >> Tweeks >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >> leave the list". >> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. 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