If your kids' attachments are so huge that they don't fit it in a standard box, then they and the robot not likely to fit in Base! Have your kids read "D11 - Safety" regarding the new definitions of "in" and "R12 - Launching", especially regarding extending out of Base. The associated issues include "D10 - Penalties", "R10 - Hands Off", "R13 - Interupting". On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > These are good questions, because the rules can change each year. > > We've asked all the tournament directors to try to provide a small table > or chair next to the field to help teams to store their equipment. > > Your tournament directors will also be contacting you if there are any > restrictions on access or space to the competition area. > > Let's take a look at the rules: > > 1. > > R11 – Workspace and Storage > - > > ● ON THE FIELD: Handling and storage of allowable things may > extend out of Safety, into adjacent irrelevant Field space only if specific > actions and locations are completely non-strategic. > - > > ● OFF THE FIELD: Equipment and Models are not allowed on the > floor. > > This tells your team three things: > 1) it's okay if stuff that you aren't using pokes out of Safety, as long > as you aren't using it for strategic purposes, including interfering with > the autonomous robot. > > 2) it's okay to store stuff off the field > > 3) it's never okay to put stuff on the floor. > > > There are also a whole bunch of things that it doesn't say (and by GP2, > bullet 5, that allows you a lot of flexibility.) > > a) it doesn't say that you cannot bring your own box (or two or three), > or prohibit/require certain types of boxes > b) it doesn't say that you cannot bring a little table of your own (if > there is room) > c) it doesn't say that other team members cannot hold stuff > > <notes for rules mavens: > i) boxes and tables are not used for Mission-related activity, in the > narrow sense of trying to accomplish a Mission on the Field, so by D03, > they aren't Equipment, and so R01 doesn't apply to them. > ii) R10 only applies to objects on the Field, and R11 explicitly says > that the team can handle things in Storage. > end notes> > > > It also could be a good time to review the judging rubrics with your > team, and ask them, "What will you say if you are asked about xyz?" For > example, in Robot Design, under the Mechanical Efficiency skill area, when > I am a judge, I will be looking to see and hear described an appropriate > balance between quantity and specialization of attachments to see whether > the team is trying to be both efficient and effective in accomplishing > their goals. > > Steve Scherr > Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Amy [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Thanks...I am just wondering how teams manage whose frames or attachments >> won't fit in that one box or on the table/chair provided? Do you bring >> multiple boxes and just set the on the floor next to the table? I'm just >> trying to envision how they're going to manage this all. >> > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.