Thank you Steve! That's helps clarify things for me and see how it can work! I appreciate it! Amy Nichols On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jeff Beima <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > If your kids' attachments are so huge that they don't fit it in a standard > box, then they and the robot not likely to fit in Base! Have your kids > read "D11 - Safety" regarding the new definitions of "in" and "R12 - > Launching", especially regarding extending out of Base. The associated > issues include "D10 - Penalties", "R10 - Hands Off", "R13 - Interupting". > > > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> These are good questions, because the rules can change each year. >> >> We've asked all the tournament directors to try to provide a small table >> or chair next to the field to help teams to store their equipment. >> >> Your tournament directors will also be contacting you if there are any >> restrictions on access or space to the competition area. >> >> Let's take a look at the rules: >> >> 1. >> >> R11 – Workspace and Storage >> - >> >> ● ON THE FIELD: Handling and storage of allowable things may >> extend out of Safety, into adjacent irrelevant Field space only if specific >> actions and locations are completely non-strategic. >> - >> >> ● OFF THE FIELD: Equipment and Models are not allowed on the >> floor. >> >> This tells your team three things: >> 1) it's okay if stuff that you aren't using pokes out of Safety, as long >> as you aren't using it for strategic purposes, including interfering with >> the autonomous robot. >> >> 2) it's okay to store stuff off the field >> >> 3) it's never okay to put stuff on the floor. >> >> >> There are also a whole bunch of things that it doesn't say (and by GP2, >> bullet 5, that allows you a lot of flexibility.) >> >> a) it doesn't say that you cannot bring your own box (or two or three), >> or prohibit/require certain types of boxes >> b) it doesn't say that you cannot bring a little table of your own (if >> there is room) >> c) it doesn't say that other team members cannot hold stuff >> >> <notes for rules mavens: >> i) boxes and tables are not used for Mission-related activity, in the >> narrow sense of trying to accomplish a Mission on the Field, so by D03, >> they aren't Equipment, and so R01 doesn't apply to them. >> ii) R10 only applies to objects on the Field, and R11 explicitly says >> that the team can handle things in Storage. >> end notes> >> >> >> It also could be a good time to review the judging rubrics with your >> team, and ask them, "What will you say if you are asked about xyz?" For >> example, in Robot Design, under the Mechanical Efficiency skill area, when >> I am a judge, I will be looking to see and hear described an appropriate >> balance between quantity and specialization of attachments to see whether >> the team is trying to be both efficient and effective in accomplishing >> their goals. >> >> Steve Scherr >> Virginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Amy [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks...I am just wondering how teams manage whose frames or >>> attachments won't fit in that one box or on the table/chair provided? Do >>> you bring multiple boxes and just set the on the floor next to the table? >>> I'm just trying to envision how they're going to manage this all. >>> >> ------------------------------ >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or >> leave the list". >> VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via >> VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit >> https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to >> subscribe. >> > > ------------------------------ > To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit > https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or > leave the list". > VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. > Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to > subscribe. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.