Hi Shashi, Yes, the penalty will be -8 points. However, technically it will net you -16 points, because that black bar will no longer be in its original position (with the ref). Sonya Coach of the Brick Dawgs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.