Hi Steve, Just to clarify on the junk penalty issue: 1. If we do not interrupt a robot, and it fails to come back to the safety at the end of the match, will they be penalty? 2. You mentioned that the referee can put the penalty anywhere on the mat, are there any rules guiding where he or she would put it? So it is up to luck whether the penalty is put at a place that makes some missions impossible according to pre-set programs? Thanks! Chao -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/11/15, VA-DC Referee Advisor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Interruption and Junk penalty points To: [log in to unmask] Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 12:11 PM There is no Junk Penalty on a mission Model like the white Plastic Bags. Mission Models may be stranded anywhere out in the field with no Penalty. The Interruption and Junk Penalties are assessed by taking one of the referee's Black Bars and placing it on the mat. The point value for that is determined by mission M04. The score for each penalty Black Bar is -8. (As others have noted, this results in a net change of -16 in the score, since the bar would have been worth +8 before the Penalty,) Steve ScherrVirginia-DC FLL Referee Advisor On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Shashi Goli <[log in to unmask]> wrote: All, I didn't see Robot Interruption and Junk penalty points anywhere mentioned. How many points are charged for each robot interruption if it is stranded outside the safety area while running and how many points for something such as leaving a plastic bag or something outside the safety area after end of mission ? Thanks,Shashi To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to subscribe. To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-announcements-l.html to subscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE or CHANGE your settings, please visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-l.html and select "Join or leave the list". -- VADCFLL administrative announcements are sent via VADCFLL-ANNOUNCEMENTS-L. Visit https://listserv.jmu.edu/archives/vadcfll-ANNOUNCEMENTS-l.html to subscribe.