I just did a test... if I start with a new score, and score demolition only, I get 117 points.  That is:
Demo - (85)
8 black bars still in original condition (2 in the sorter, 2 in the factory, and 4 with the ref) (64)
4 bars are now 'not in original condition' (-32)
85+64-32 = 117 - looks right to me

At this point, there are 4 bars listed as 'in other locations'
Now, if I slide the bar and put those 4 bars in the landfill, I get 161 points
Those 4 bars that were -32 are now worth 12 points
85+64+12 = 161 - also adds up.

I think the key with the EV3 scorer is that it's up to your team to know the rules and make sure you set it up properly, especially when it comes to the placement and locations of the black bars.

-Frank




On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Sravanthi Davuluri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
If teams are looking for an alternative..

Our team used the scorer below during test runs and it worked as expected during the competition - We were at Ashburn  on Saturday

http://www.flltournament.com/Scoresheet.aspx?CID=21

I agree they need to be familiar with the rules especially those pertaining to the Black bars and Transport. 

Best wishes
Sravanthi


On Nov 9, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Frank Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Given the fact that we are in tournament season and many teams are meeting this week and using the EV3Lessons scoring app, I would appreciate it if the discussion regarding errors (or not errors) remained out in the open.  I checked it against our interpretations of the rules and found no problems.  As long as the whole thing is handled with Gracious Professionalism, it is better to have more eyes on potential problems.

The guys at EV3Lessons did a great job on this, please don't restrict the flow of information about such a public resource.

Frank Levine
The Robotic Rockets

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Thomas (Tweeks) Weeks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hehe.. I was afraid of this..
Taking discussion off list. :)  Ping Sanjay or I if interested in the discussion.. :)

Tweeks
p.s. we really appreciate the awesome community.. both here, and by folks like the EV3 Lessons folks.. which we (especially us ignorant rookie teams) rely on so heavily :)

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From: First Lego League in Virginia and DC <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of EV3 Lessons <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 3:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [VADCFLL-L] Tournament scores

@Tweeks:  Could you let us know what "grading errors" were in the scoring tool we made that you referred to in your post?   It has been tested by many refs. It was used at a Qualifying Tournament last weekend and the refs and/or teams using it have not mentioned any error.

If there are errors, we would love the opportunity to correct calculation issues or clarify wording if it was just an interpretation issue by teams.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ev3lessons.com_resources_scorer_score.html-23en-2Dus&d=BQIFAw&c=eLbWYnpnzycBCgmb7vCI4uqNEB9RSjOdn_5nBEmmeq0&r=J5fb0ELkRoh7TzAGYz99sSMvB-c7i4AC0HDT2OVPrww&m=ailQO14rcyaiGrNhowCrnShyHOvyrTJuIOCCoO9RCys&s=1QpIBA53ByA4MxnMR7aFrVIIk6919cl2VImkEOhxmog&e=

Thank you,
Sanjay and Arvind
EV3Lessons

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